Floyd Mayweather Jnr vs Sugar Ray Leonard at 147lbs

For this topic I want a more well thought out answer. Don't just say "Leonard rapes him" or some shit. Say how Leonard beats him. How does the fight go. Who leads etc.

I say Leonard wins via close but clear decision.

Both play cat and mouse for the most part, Floyd gets hit less...but Leonard's handspeed and flurries impress the judges more and he wins 7 of 12 rounds or 9 of 15.

 

Leonard's hand speed, work rate, and yes, POWER, would keep Floyd ultra cautious.

I don't think pot shotting gets the job done against a busy fighter like Leonard.

It's back and forth early on, but Leonard would take over in the mid to late rounds, and he would hurt Floyd repeatedly.

Floyd probably goes the distance but he'd pay a painful price to hear the losing end of a UD.

 

Agreed.

To be fair, I have Floyd pretty high H2H from 130-140, and 147 is where it drops considerably. Leonard from 1979-82 was pretty close to perfect. He's simply bigger and better.

 

I dont think it's as competitive as you guys say. Prime Leonard is probably koing Floyd in the middle rounds.

 

Btw I contest the idea that floyd had a better defense than Ray- he was just more defensive. if Ray leonard had been content to throw 30 punches a round and pick pocket rounds against the likes of Carlos baldomir or Marcos maidana he'd never have taken a clean shot in his life

 

Leonard rapes him.
PBF has no advantages in this fight
SRL is bigger, Faster, stronger,more active, better chin, better power, and Hut summed up the defense.
AND he is a FIGHTER with HEART

 

You can contest it all you want, doesn't make it true. IF shit had wings it would fly.
No fighter wants to deliberately get hit. Leonard is considerably more hit-able than Mayweather.

 

You don't understand the sport.

There is no way Leonard could dominate a fighter of Mayweather's caliber. It's impossible.

 

Not that competitive. Watch Leonard-Benitez to see why. Ray's handspeed and offense would put Floyd in a shell. Floyd loses a going away.

 

He dominated Benitez. Only a Floyd dick rider would pretend Floyd is a much higher caliber than Benitez

 

Mayweather is a boring fighter and that's why he's underrated. I get it. But when you consider Floyd's skill set and style there is no way Leonard could dominate him. The guy that would beat him the most clearly would be Hearns.

 

Erratic is correct. This isn't just about size. Ray Leonard was just BETTER than Floyd. No SANE HUMAN BEING ON EARTH ever considered Floyd to be as good as Leonard during Floyd's prime. Floyd's longevity is all he has over Ray.

79-82 Leonard was simply a superior fighter to Floyd. Then you ADD IN the fact that he's naturally bigger, and no, it's not that competitive.

 

On Paper, Leonard beats Duran in every category also, at 147lbs....plus Leonard was naturally bigger than Duran. So your logic simply doesn't work, unless of course you stick to that theory that Duran was from Krypton.

 

Duran was better than Floyd as well. But MORE IMPORTANTLY, Duran's style was more conducive for beating Leonard than Floyd's.

Floyd wouldn't be able to outbox Leonard.

 

This topic has never been discussed. Creating this is genius!

If Leonard had a day between the weigh in and fight he'd be at least 160. In his prime weigh in's were the day of the fight. That plus his height advantage...Floyd has no chance. Leonard is a legit 5'10", Floyd is 5' 6" or 5'7' AT BEST.

You can't fight a defensive/passive/pussy fight like Floyd against a guy who's your superior in power (in both hands) and your equal if not superior in reflexes, footwork, speed and quickness. Plus, Leonard had a mean streak and wanted to hurt you. Floyd fights to not get hurt.

Floyd wouldn't beat Vernon Forrest who didn't have nearly the same qualities as Leonard, let alone Leonard.

 

I can't picture Floyd pulling a Duran. He didn't have that unpredictability nor did he ever fight at that kind of pace as a 147 pounder. By the time Floyd became a welter, he had settled into his flat-footed, catch and shoot style.

Could I see Floyd going the distance, sure. He's defensively good enough and aware enough of his surroundings to not get into a stupid fight with a bigger, stronger, and yes, FASTER welterweight.

Floyd might have comparable talent, skill, and athletic ability with Leonard, but he won't be able to impose his style here in any way, shape, or form.

 

PBF would be so in his shell, it would be embarrasing. He wouldn't have the heart to make it a fight. Terrible style and character matchup for Floyd.
He would be happy to survive and complain about the decision.

 

I wonder who the tallest welter Floyd fought is?

 

Pacquiao

 

De La Hoya. 5'11" and taller than Leonard. Whether or not the fight actually took place at 154lbs is irrelevant because the spirit of what you're saying is who is the tallest guy that was welterweight and over that Floyd fought.

 

Do you EVER get tired of being DEAD WRONG?

 

In that pic, Leonard actually looks about half an inch taller.

Plus, he was faster, more powerful, and more skillful than Oscar, who is a world beater in his own right.

It's just hard to envision what strategy Floyd could use to get the better of Leonard.

 

Tbf, until he tired, old Oscar had quite allot of success just with his jab. I still suspect it isn't a coincidence that floyd never fought anyone over 5'8 again

 

Something must be wrong with teh pic that I'm seeing 'cause I see De La Hoya being clearly taller by an inch.

 

Say what? Y'all must be seeing a different picture than I am.

 

Xplosove...how 'bout dem apples?

 

Mayweather would reduce Leonard's usual pace with his style. The fight would end up being a chess match. It'll be cat and mouse and competitive. Leonard would win based on flurries and power but make no mistake, it would not be an easy fight for Leonard. not at all.

Again Floyd is very underrated around here.

 

Oscar is clearly wearing his lifts in that pic.





Here is Oscar next to the 5'11 Tito.

 

If you're using this pic as evidence, then Tito is 3 inches taller. We know that's not true. So angle and perspective of the shot must be skewed somehow.