I've created this topic deliberately to expose the fools around her and to educate those that are teachable. Most boxing fans are so simplistic in their analysis that they would pick Shane for the mere fact that he beat Oscar more convincingly ( most think Tito actually lost the fight). In other words, in the minds of juvenile boxing fans, performances against common opponents trumps all other analysis. Such cunts exist on this very forum and this topic will bring their idiocy to light. Trinidad fought a very different Oscar to the one Mosley fought. Against Tito, Oscar was moving constantly and jabbing, refusing to engage for long periods but would instead flurry and then get back on his bicycle. Against Shane, he was just walking him down trying to knock him out. So first thing to note: two different styles from de la Hoya: two different Oscars. Secondly, you cannot go by performances against common opponents as if that tells the entire story else Hearns should have knocked out Hagler on account of what each did against Duran. Shane was a slugger, Tito was a pressure fighting puncher. Tito hit harder, had a more consistent workrate against guys that were there to be hit, had a better jab and had more stamina. As such Trinidad would beat Shane every day of the week and twice on Sunday's. Who dares to disagree?
Tito's a very bad matchup for Shane. Always said this. At 147 it's a better matchup since Shane was an excellent welterweight, but Tito wins a clear UD. Shane becomes a "good boy" down the stretch and is happy going the distance. At 154, I could definitely see Tito stopping the Mosley of the DLH rematch late.
Lol. Even among casual black 'barbershop' fans, Mosley was never given much of a shot against Tito. Even before the Forrest fights he was perceived as too small and accessible. I could see him doing really well for a while but once the heavy shots start to land he'd either get wobbled and start to get battered around or become less assertive, stop taking chances and get out worked.
This. His handspeed would be problematic for Tito for a few rounds. But once Tito adjusts to the speed, and starts timing Shane, it'd be all downhill. Tito was actually a better technician than Shane, and his ring IQ was considerably higher.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see such wise answers so far. Perhaps this forum isn't as foolish as I thought.
There's nothing at all foolish in claiming that Mosley puts a whuppin on Thurman and Paul Williams. Tito's definitely the worst matchup for Shane outta any of the 90s welterweights. He matches up well against Oscar and Ike, but not Tito.
Definitely. I don't remember too many folks thinking Shane would beat Tito and a lot of folks thought a Quartey fight would be a nap and tuck affair.
Quartey-Mosley is a toss up, IMO. Ike's jab and physical strength would give Mosley a lot of problems, but Mosley's speed could be the difference maker. Trinidad isn't a good match up for Mosley. Tito has similar length and range to Vernon, and he punches faster and harder than Vernon. I think Mosley would get very gunshy with Trinidad.
I'm sure Tito had lots of struggles with weight at welter but the only time he looked like it may have seriously affected him was against Oscar and even then he still looked like he'd knock a motherfucka out if he could get them in front of him.