Tyson Fury notified of positive test for cocaine, likely to lose title belts

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  1. Jimmy

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    I'll be pissed if we never get to see Wilder-Fury
     
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    You got a better chance of seeing Fury vs Zelenoff first.
     
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    Considering Joshua-Wilder is a much better matchup, I can give two fucks about anything Fury related.

    Joshua-Wilder is really the ONLY compelling matchup in that sorry ass division at the moment.
     
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    Might be a more exciting matchup, but there's nothing that suggest that either of them are better than Fury. So I wouldn't necessarly call it a better matchup
     
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    Wilder is a hack.

    Joshua, even though he's overrated by some on here, it's very apparent is better than Fury.

    Joshua isn't some spooked, 40-year-old man who can't pull the trigger. AJ would beat the coke outta Fury.
     
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    GOOD....Tyson Fury is a COWARD....I have never seen anyone fight a corpse....then be terrified of stepping back into the grave pit with that CORPSE..it's easy money...isn't it??? Fury knows he got lucky with wald pussy.......
     
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    AJ is the kind of guy who look good blowing punching bag, but it's far from apparent that he'll be able to translate this into beating the elite of the division. I'll bet you big money that Fury beats him if the fight happen.

    You,ve been spewing the same thing before the wlad fight, and Fury beat him without much trouble
     
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    Fury's win over Wlad is THE least impressive big fight win ever. It was a HORRIBLE, pitiful fight in which Fury did little... but Wlad did fuck all.

    This was not Douglas putting on an amazing performance against Tyson. This was a big oaf outworking, and out posing a disinterested old man.

    I honestly believe that Joshua went through more adversity against White than he'd have to endure against Fury. I'm pretty sure Fury's camp knows to stay the Hell away from Joshua.
     
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    Wlad wasn't disintereted, he was cowarldy (which is the motto of his whole carreer). Doesn't means that it was easy to beat him, and the reason Wlad did fuck all was because of Fury size, jab and looseness. In fact, I said it clearly before the fight that Fury size, jab and fluidity would make Wlad very reluctant to throw punches ( a much more courageous fighter in Chisora barely threw any punches against Fury) . I guarantee you that AJ workrate will take a big drop in a fight against Fury. You are grossly underestimating the difficulty of fighting a fleet footed 6-8 guy, and AJ is a bit stiff with his movement. He will look like a big robot against Fury
     
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    We've been down this road before.

    Wlad IS a front runner, but if he was younger none of his lack of heart would have mattered. He'd have treated Fury like the punching bag he is.

    Wilder's a bigger threat to Joshua than Fury. Wilder has limited skill, but he has a big time power, so if he lands on Joshua all bets are off.

    Joshua has a pretty calm, cool disposition in there. I don't see him being thrown off by Fury's antics. And I don't really see Fury's chin being good enough to handle Joshua's offense all night.
     
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    He also said that Wilder would be "brutally knocked out against Stiverne and look foolish in doing so." Wilder won every round with ease.
     
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    That's exactly what I was talking about when I said boxing fans are prone to invent cute little narratives when a fight doesnt goes how they tought it would go, or wanted it to go.
     
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    I'm very happy with the way it went. I despise both Klit sisters. I think that they were both horrible for the sport.

    But it wasn't some breath-taking performance by Fury.
     
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    Take both Klitschkos out of the sport and what you have for the last 12 years is the fistic equivalent of Clinton and Trump, slathering over each other, with an uber-enthusiastic HBO lapping it up like parched dogs, pitching it to the gullible Yankee public like some sort of snake oil "curer of all ills".
     
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    Agree with X.

    Fury won't have the chin to stand up to AJ's power. That's one that I could see ending VERY EARLY.

    And no, Fury's antics wouldn't unhinge AJ in any way, shape, or form.
     
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    http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/tyson-fury-boxing-champ-opens-up-about-drug-use-w443250

    Did you use cocaine?
    Listen, I'll tell you what's happened. It's been a witch hunt ever since I won that world title. Ever since I got a bit of fame for doing good there's been a witch hunt on me because of my background, because of who I am and what I do, there's hatred for Travelers and gypsies around the world. Especially in the United Kingdom. Especially with the British Boxing Board of Control and some of the sanctioning bodies of the world titles. [The BBBC did not respond to an interview request.] I had to fight one of the best champions in history. No one give me a prayer. I finally prevailed over the guy, beat him, and I get treated like shit. Within a week, the IBF, the International Boxing Federation, stole my belt and give it to somebody else, knowing full well that I couldn't defend it in a week because I had a rematch set with Klitschko. That was the first bit of corruption involved with boxing. [The IBF says Fury broke his contract.]

    From then on, it's been nothing more than a witch hunt. From then on, they've tried to get me chucked out of boxing because they cannot tame me, they cannot hire me, I'm not for sale, no one can turn a key in my back, no one can do nothing to stop me. So now they’re saying I took some cocaine and whatever. Listen if I had some smack I'd take it. If I had heroin I'd take that, never mind cocaine, for what they've done to me. It’s a travesty what they’ve done. I want to expose them for what they are. The British Boxing Board of Controls is in on it too. They’re all in it together. The drug testing companies are in on it as well. If I tested positive in February 2015 for drugs [months before his match with Klitschko] why let me fight the long reigning champion and leave him of all his belts in November? Why not strip me in February? [The U.K. Anti-Doping Agency says they cannot comment on a current case.]

    You believe a lot of this is stemming from racism against Travelers? They've always had it in for you in some sense?
    Always. I come from a Traveling background, and we suffer the biggest racism and discrimination in the country. It's going on today in 2016. Man, I've been refused in restaurants because I'm a Traveler. I'm the heavyweight champion of the world and I've been to restaurants and been told 'Sorry mate you can't come in. No Travelers allowed.' So you can see my frustration with it all. I get no credit for defeating the second-longest reigning champion in history. Even my own country where I was born and raised hate me. The only thing the press wants to write is negativity. As soon as I won the title I got back off the boat and pick up the newspaper: Tyson done something controversial. It wasn't: 'He's dethroned the best man who's been in a long time.' It was that he's done this and he's done that. Anything to try and take credit away from me.

    Are you saying you never did cocaine and the drug test is not accurate?
    Listen, I've done a lot of things in my life. I've done lots of cocaine. Lots of it. Why shouldn't I take cocaine? It's my life isn't it? I can do what I want. Yeah, I have done cocaine. Plenty of people have done cocaine as well. What the fuck has that got to do with anything? That ain't a performance enhancing drug. Am I not allowed to have a life now as well? Do they want to take my personal life off me too? I've not been in a gym for months. I've not been training. I've been going through depression. I just don't want to live anymore, if you know what I’m saying. I've had total enough of it. They've forced me to the breaking edge. Never mind cocaine. I just didn't care. I don't want to live anymore. So cocaine is a little minor thing compared to not wanting to live anymore.

    Have you taken any other drugs than cocaine?
    I never took other drugs, ever, in me life. I only started to take cocaine in the last few months.

    Are you saying you have been dealing with depression caused by your treatment as a Traveler in boxing?
    Yes, most definitely. I was a lot happier when I wasn’t the world champion because people wasn't giving me as much shit. People wasn't wanting me to do all these bad things so much. Listen I've been pushed to the brink. I can't take no more. I'm in a hospital at the moment. I'm seeing psychiatrists. Everything. They say I've got a version of bipolar. I'm a manic depressive. All from what they've done to me. All this shit through boxing, through taking titles, through writing me off. I beat the best man but I'm still shit.

    I used to love boxing when I was a kid. It was my life. All the way through it was my life. You finally get to where you need to be and it becomes a big mess. And that's it. I hate boxing now. I wouldn't even go across the road to watch a world title fight. That's what its done to me. I don't even want to wake up. I hope I die every day. And that's a bad thing to say when I've got three children and a lovely wife isn't it? But I don't want to live anymore. And if I could take me own life – and I wasn't a Christian – I'd take it in a second. I just hope someone kills me before I kill me self. I'll have to spend eternity in hell.

    I'm sorry to hear that. Where are you now?
    I'm in a very bad place at the moment. I don't know whether I'm coming or going. I don't know what's going to happen to me. I don’t know if I’m going to see the year out to be honest.

    But you are seeing help.
    I am seeing help, but they can't do nothing for me. What I've got is incurable. I don't want to live. All the money in the world, fame and glory, means nothing if you're not happy. And I ain't happy. I'm very far from it.

    What about the recent Scarface and retirement Twitter posts?
    They can't do anymore than what they've done to me. And I'll tell you this. I love winding them up as well. Boxing, I would say, is the most corrupt organization in the whole of sports. My face didn't fit. I don't belong in boxing, people like me. They only want people that they can tell what to do and wind the key in the back. Robots.

    You have made controversial comments offending many groups of people, and have said these statements stem from your conservative religious beliefs. Do you feel you've been treated unfairly for this?
    Right from the beginning mate. Right from the beginning. I've got a personal life everyone wants to bring into the public. What I say I stand by. I don't care. If I believe what I believe then I'm going to say it. I've been persecuted for standing up for Christ. It's been a hell of a journey. But you know what I wouldn’t change a thing because I've stood up for the Lord, I've got me views across.

    Did you push back your other rematches with Klitshcko because you were suffering from depression and you weren’t training?
    To be honest yes. I've not been in the gym for months. I've been AWOL. I've been out drinking, anything to get me mind off what's been going on to me. You wouldn't understand it if I told you. It's so corrupt. And the real people inside of boxing know what's going on. They know it.

    What specifically have the boxing authorities done to you? Are these drug tests not standard?
    They tested me about six times within a few weeks. Only recently three days ago last week they came to my house at 1:30 in the morning, tested me, and came back at 9 a.m. to test me again. What is this? Do you understand the treatment I'm getting off these people? They’re driving me mad.

    It is crazy that's what's going on but listen, I don't really care. They've won. They've got what they wanted. That's it. I'm as fat as pig. I'm 285 pounds, 290 pounds. It is what it is. I've been out. I've been an emotional wreck. I've been on a mission. I've been out trying to handle me life.

    Are you with family right now? Are you with people that love and care about you?
    Yes. Yes.

    Are your demons, your depression, something you've been fighting your entire life?
    You know, I've been fighting them for a lot of years. Now, I just don't know. I just can't see a light at the end of the tunnel if I'm honest. It was driving my family apart. My wife says she can't live with me because I'm a lunatic. I just ... I don't know. I don't know what's goin' on. It looks I'm just goin ... everything is gonna go. I'll lose my family, my wife, my kids. Everything. All due to boxing. I wish to God on everything, that I never got into boxing as a child. I wish this never happened and I had just done a routine job and a routine life. This is how it's got me all of it. It's shoved wedges between my team, my uncles, cousins, relatives, everybody who was involved in boxing. Everyone was unhappy with all of this and it's all because of me. I feel like I'm the one who's brought all the pressure on everybody. I'm the one who's done all this, if you know what I mean. It's my burden to carry. Why should everybody else have to carry it around with them, just because they trained me?

    But you know what it is. I feel more racism now in 2016 than any slave, any foreign immigrant ever did in the 1800s. Listen, when Muhammad Ali threw his gold medal away in the 1960s for being mistreated and abused, this is what I'm doing today. I'm throwing all my world titles in the bin because I ain't accepted in society for being a Traveler in 2016. [In a later tweet and brief follow-up phone call, Fury said he is not quitting boxing.] What does it mean to be a world heavyweight champion when you cannot go into your local restaurant, sit down and have a dinner? It doesn't mean nothing clearly.

    Do you feel that all your success has amplified the racism?
    Even more. You don't have to take my word for it. Just go on my Twitter page and have a look. Scroll down for the last few months. Go online and read the articles. So-called British journalists. Read what they've got to say. No one can say a good thing. Whatever I do. If I won over 30 fights and knocked out everybody it would be no good. If it was the best math teacher in the world, it would be no good. If I was the United States president I'd be no good. I can't do nothing in my life that's any good to the general people because I'll never be accepted for who I am and what I am. You could go and ask 100 people about Travelers and they've all got nothing good to say about them. I don't know where it comes from. I do not know where it comes from.

    Are you going to retire now?
    Why would I want to entertain people who hate me? I'm not gonna go in there and risk brain damage every time I go into a fight for people that don't give me no credit. All the money in the world ain't worth it to be trapped how I got trapped. [Fury later said he would not retire from boxing.]

    Do you see any way for you to get better? And for you to fight back in terms of boxing?
    I don't see a way out, I don't even see a way of living for me, I don't want to live anymore. It has brought me to the brink of, of death, that's where I'm at at the moment. It all seems so sad but it is the truth and I really don't care about boxing or sports or anything about it. I'm just sad that I got involved in boxing in the beginning. Cause I always thought once I get to the top, it will all change, but I knew deep down inside it would never change.

    At what point did you start really giving into the despair?
    It's only been about six months really, the last six months. All the negativity and all the nay-sayers talking about drugs and doping. But we knew it was absolutely rubbish.

    So you're saying you were clean when you were fighting, you had no drugs in your system?
    No drugs at all, no drugs at all. I have never ever taken a drug to help me boxing in my life.

    But you've been driven to the point of depression because of racism and you have taken cocaine to help cope?
    Yes. I have never ever taken a drug to help me boxing in my life. Never took a performance enhancing drug ever. Never even took an aspirin for a cold. I'm a natural. The only person that can beat me is me.

    And in your mind you should not be stripped of your titles because it has nothing to do with your fighting – but with your mental illness, your depression?
    Yes, it's got nothing to do with my fighting. Got nothing to do with anything like that. What I'm going through at the moment is my personal life. I've not been in the gym since May. I went over to Holland to do a training camp and was crying every night. I did not want to be there. I said to to [uncle and trainer] Peter [Fury], "I cannot do this anymore, Peter." I said I'm breaking down, I said there's something wrong with me, I wanna go home, I said I don't want it. Take everything and chuck it in the bin, I don't want it no more. From that day forward, I've never done any training. I've been out, I've been drinking. I'm on the verge of becoming an alcoholic. I'm drinking Monday to Friday to Sunday. I can't, I can't deal with it, and the only thing that helps me is when I get drunk out of me mind and that's it. I don't tell lies, I've no need to tell lies. I've taken drugs, cocaine, on many many occasions for the last six months. Not to enhance my performance – cause I've not been performing.

    Right.
    I've been out drinking, drugging, acting like a lunatic, being a fool. All to try and feel better in meself. But nothing can suffice my thirst no more, I'm finished. All the drugs and drink in the world ain't gonna make me happy no more. Nothing makes me happy anymore because I have gone past the point of happiness. There is no returning for me anymore. I am finished.

    Some people say you've been putting off a rematch because you're scared of losing your title, because you're scared of a rematch with Klitschko.
    How can I be scared? I’m 28 years old. I believe I'm the greatest out of everyone that's ever lived. Klitschko got played with the first time. He didn't even win a round. He lost every round, he couldn't even land a punch. Why would I need to be scared of him, a 40-year-old man?

    You know, you come from such a legendary fighting family, what has your victory meant to them?
    Nothing can ever, ever mean more to my family, my history of people, than winning those titles. We are bare-knuckle champions, boxing champions — all that matters to us is fighting.

    You have three young children. Do they make you happy?
    Of course they do. You gotta feel better cause you look at pure innocence and feel good. They don't know what's going on. It's not their fault. Listen if I never had kids, I wouldn't be alive today, that's the truth.

    Are you still taking cocaine?
    I've stopped it. I stopped it all on the first of the month.

    Oh really?
    I'm trying to forget about it all. I'm putting boxing behind me, the drinking, the drugs, just getting back in the church and right with God. Cause that's all that matters with me. Other people's opinions and what they gotta write and what they gotta say about me, all the negativity, all the charges in the world doesn't mean nothing, because I just want to go to heaven, I want my family to go to heaven, and that's it, that's all that matters to me. Because material things are no good.

    So you're saying you stopped at the first of the month, two days ago, you stopped taking all drugs and alcohol?
    Yeah.

    Do you feel better?
    It does make me feel better. I've got to try to get me family back on track, get me wife back, you know. I’ve got to start doing things and manning up a bit, because there are a lot people out there, a lot worse off than me in life, and no matter how depressed I get, I've got three beautiful children here, and they've got a life and what would they do without a father?

    Anything else you want to tell the world?
    Yes, this is me first and last interview. I just want time alone with my family, I'm going through a lot of personal demons, I've got demons on me, I'm trying to shake them all off. I want a normal life. I don't want to box anymore, I don't want it no more. [Fury later said he would return to boxing.] I've been drug to defeat, and that's it. The only thing I've got left now is me family and me health and that can all change any given moment. So we’ve just got to be thankful for what we do got, and just be happy in our lives.
     
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    :lol: And in the end Wlad souped that shit back up from the septic chechen skimmer-box, oh, where that belt had been,.......

    Look, Vitali a good pooch, he can come back, 'buddy says he can come back now' :crafty: ,.. but Wlad was only fit for the high priest Steve Kim and his congregation of white-hot eugenists, :nono: desist pinning the nepotism leap-frog on the wonderland rabbit.
     
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    Guy really seems like he has a persecution complex. No way did anyone refuse him at a restaurant because he's a traveller.
     
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    well, if it happened, it's probably because he came in with his 1 billion cousins, all fat, drunk, obnoxious and loud.
     
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    BTW, it's sad what's happening to Tyson Fury. He really seems to flush his life down the drain at the moment he should enjoy it the most.
     
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    'Tinker pig' :lol: wtf?!
     
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    Poor guy seems ill. I was beginning to suspect bipolar already, he's all over the place
     
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    Seems like a case of paranoid schizzo to me. I met a fellow who had a similar complex, believed the catholic church pulled the strings and was out to get him and his family. Happened to be a former WWF wrestler (pretty small time..). Extremely uncomfortable conversation...
     

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