Ward Kovalev did 160.000 buys??

Pretty bad huh? :dunno:

 

North American and British audience here, chump. It's 160,000. Comma not period!!!!!!

 

soorraayyy

 

I didn't even know Europeans did that. So what do you guys do for decimal points?

 

Pretty bad news tbh- best fight in pure boxing terms for ages and this says there's not much correletion between that and the bottom line

 

Not really...boxing has always been a popularity contest...and sometimes the best fighters in the world are not the most popular....Whitaker, Jones, Mayweather (before Gatti/Oscar), etc....

Canelo vs. GGG will do 1.5-2.0 million easy....but after that....smh...not much else out there that can/will sell..

 

Aye but the next time two guys on the fringes of marketability are weighing up whether to fight each other do they risk it? Was this enough of a jump-up from what theyd both get fighting also rans and protecting their '0's?

 

So no red panties then :dunno:

 

Agreed. I think that because of this, we will get a few years of pampering

 

Agreed. I think that because of this, we will get a few years of pampering and weak matchups. Very dissapointing

 

The general public don't know these guys.

 

They use commas for decimal points. It's backwards. I used to work with German's all the time...it was annoying.

 

Madness! I thought the Germans had just about everything right but clearly not!

 

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You're Black and English..........why did you think it would be anything but :dunno: ::

 

Boxing ded, Wald dun it.

 

I agree.

 

I mispronounced Wlad, and you've gone ahead and bollocks it up yourself, what a pair of pot banging clangers ay, duffers foreve :crafty:

 

Extremely shitty undercards are becoming commonplace.

Look at the PPV cards Don King put on while Tyson was in prison. You'd get four fights on a card that each would be PPV headliners now.

 

Most boxing fans don't like ward. He's a boring fuck. Those who did order it hoped for a Kovalev ko

 

The Question Is, How Does this Impact a RE?

Obviously, the Biggest Fight for Either and the Most LOGICAL Next Step...Does the "Controversial" Decision Help or Hurt in Attracting a Larger Audience???...Does HBO Dare Put the RE on PPV???...

ASSuming They Won't, and the RE is a Regular Telecast, Do the Fighters Get Similar or Even LESS Money than Prior???...If That's the Case, it's DOUBTFUL the RE Happens at All...





REED

 

The rematch happens if HBO wants it. Both guys are under contract and have no other avenues. They'd have to take interim fights (probably on the same card) then fight again in the fall.

Too bad neither have that GGG merchandise money to fall back on.

 

good point. sometimes i would look foward to the undercard as much or more as the main event.

 

This is really what happened. Ward is like Hopkins and how many times did Hopkins sell more than 160,000 ppvs in his entire career? Maybe the big 5 championship card way back around 2003? Maybe?

And the weak undercard.

 

This within itself is an interesting paradox. Both Hopkins and Ward are equally as skilled as Mayweather and yet Mayweather is a far more negative fighter than either are.

The main difference/turn off is neither guy talks as much shit or are flashy (outside the ring) like Mayweather is. Mayweather talks like Tyson yet fights nothing like him.

Thus the hate for Hopkins and Ward is what attracts "boxing fans" to Mayweather and it has nada to do with what happens inside the ropes. If it did there wouldn't be any degree of separation between the three.

 

It seems most boxing people are skeptical a rematch happens. Rocnation lost money on the pay per view since they had to guarantee ward 5 million. the reason the undercard was so shitty was because they had no money to pay anyone else. main events and kovalev did ok even with those poor ppv numbers.

ward talking like this doesnt seem to make a rematch sound likely.

what needs to be different? ward got 2.5 times as much money and the benefit of the doubt on the decision. not sure what else he wants? a 90-10 split with the fight in oracle?

a rematch would need to be PPV again to accommodate ward financially.

disagreed that ward is as skilled as mayweather jr. also disagree that mayweather jr is more negative. he has actually had many more entertaining fights than ward has. i cant think of one ward fight Id ever want to go on youtube to re-watch.

 

Agreed that it's incredible that PBF popularity drastically improved pretty much at the same time he became increasingly more boring

 

I really hate defending Floyd, but there's no comparison between him and Ward.

Mayweather is by far the more talented and skilled between the two. He just naturally sees and reacts to the things in the ring in a way that Ward isn't capable of.

Ward is a guy who if placed against an all time great like a Jones, or a Spinks, or a Moore, his "skills" would be brutally exposed.

 

I think his skills were exposed a bit by Kovalev.

 

You'd have to go back 11 years (Gatti) to find a re-watchable Mayweather fight. Longer to find a fight where Mayweather had to grind out a win or even close fight than what Ward did against Kovalev. Which tends to happen when you fight the best in the division above where you've made your bones.

Name a guy as good as Kovalev that Mayweather has gone up to face in the past let's say 10 years.

Bottom line, it's not as though Kovalev dominated Ward from start to finish. The fact that guys are debating which rounds could have gone to Kovalev to push him over the top by a point goes a long way toward saying how Ward showed grit to get up and fight his way back into the fight. I don't think he gets enough credit for that whether you believe he won the fight or not.

"Like I said before" most of the "boxing fans" are attracted to Mayweather for out of the ring crap. He's no more exciting than Hopkins and/or Ward. Unless the Baldomir and Guerrero fights were instant classics I missed. Those coupled with the awful Pacquiao fight where he was as much to blame as Manny for how putrid that fight was.