Carlito's Way vs Scarface

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    This is a mismatch, but just seeing if ANYBODY will give the wrong answer...
     
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    I hated both, but Scarface was more memorable.
     
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    Nobleart Narwhal King

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    Panchy just gave the wrong answer.
     
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    There is no wrong answer.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Sure there is. Scarface is shit. Carlito's Way is a quality movie.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Carlito's Way...easy. Pacino was good....Penn was GREAT...and Penelope Ann Miller JESUS I wanted to fuck HER SOO HARD!!!
     
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    Wtf is with this forum? Did the russians hack it or something?
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    pretty colours...
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    No love for Benny Blanco?
     
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    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I agree, Scarface is an overrated pile of dirt. Carlito's way is great. I love that pool hall scene.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Underated because it was little ass Leguizamo...but great/memorable character though he was on screen for what? 8 minutes?
     
  12. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I loved scarface growing up it was my favourite. Carlitos way is still one of my favourites tho- only gangster film that would make my top ten
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Pacino actually ACTED in Carlito's Way. And you actually CARED about Carlito, and felt at the end when Blanco killed him.

    In Scarface, he didn't act. He did literally nothing but scream and curse in that horrible Cuban accent for three hours. Tony Montana isn't a character I gave a shit about... I was glad at the end when they killed him and finally shut his annoying ass up.
     
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    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    don't want to choose between these two - they complement each other. both pacino-de palma, and both gangster tragedies, at different stages of life. (only realised recently that the same actor who plays the Colombian ringleader in the chainsaw scene in Scarface also does a cameo as Rolando in Carlito's Way - the guy who used to be Carlito's partner.)

    yeah yeah yeah, scarface was over the top etc. but the movie was fucking brilliant at what it did - & has had a general impact on our culture. good script by Oliver Stone, good directing by de palma, and great acting by pacino, his buddy, pfeiffer, f murray abraham, and pacino's boss/rival Frank. it tails off once tony gets into his hubris stage and is just sitting around snorting coke, but the movie as a whole does enough for it to be recognised as a classic.
     
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    I like them both as well. An advantage Carlito's Way has is Penn's character. Scarface is pretty much all about Tony Montana.
     
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    Carlitos way is objectively better made, better directed, better writen, better acted. But scarface is incredibly visually iconic, quotable and fun. Even the shitty 80s pop music is brilliant

    In someways its better grouped with something like predator or even top gun than a film like carlitos way- a ridiculously over the top, quotable, FUN 80s guys movie
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Problem is, I don't even find Scarface fun.
     
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    Every dog has its day, huh mel

    I told him! Didn't make no sense clipping you when we had you working for us....been hot tonight, on the brew...he fucked up

    You too mel. You fucked up.

    Don't go too far now tony

    I ain't not mel....you are *fires*

    Ah...fuck...son of a bitch! Can't shoot a cop!!

    Whoever said you was one!?

    Now WAIT A MINUTE! Ok, I'm gonna go....I'll get this fixed up

    Sure Mel! Maybe you can handle yourself....one of dem first clAss tickets to the resurrection

    Fucking punk....son of a bitch!!!

    So long Mel, have a good trip

    FUCK YOU!

    *shoots*
     
  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    The FINAL SCENE when they invade his home is fun... everybody can admit that. But that doesn't change the fact that the rest of the movie isn't fun.
     
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    that montage halfway through, with tony talking on the telephone and the song in the background: "push it to the limit ... limiiittttt"
     
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    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    if you can watch the first half of scarface - i.e. from the opening to when he kills frank and goes to collect elvira - and not find it fun, you must have a testosterone deficiency
     
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    Carlito's Way, easy. One of my favourite films. Scarface was ridiculous.
     
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    No, you totally gave the wrong fucking answer. To hate both these films should borderline be a bannable offense. As it is I’m sending you on a little vacation for that. See you in two weeks.
     
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    The Genius DEMONRY!!

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    Scarface is horribly overrated. A great movie poster for an average film.
     
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    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    choot that piece o' chit
     
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    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    why don't you try sticking your head up your ass, see if it fits
     
  27. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

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    Blow it out your arse pal. Scarface is trash.
     
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    I think you might need to watch it again. I remember as a teenager I always babysat my cousin every other week or so and her dad had Scarface on VHS. The first time I watched it I didn’t like it. Out of boredom I watched it again and really liked it. After that I probably watched it every time I went over there. It really is a fun movie that I think you would see with another viewing.

    Also you should recognize you missed something or didn’t get it, the same way I do when it comes to Fargo. Not liking films that consistently beloved means there is something wrong with the person watching it.
     
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    The Genius DEMONRY!!

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    Scarface is a film I think you really had to watch when it was new to appreciate. I didn't watch it until way later and was thoroughly unimpressed.
     
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    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I watched Scarface as a teenager, not that long after it was released, maybe in 1990, and thought it was fun. I rewatched it later expecting to have fun and I was disappointed. I don't understand why it reached that cult status. I might have testosterone deficiency. But that's not what she said.
     

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