The best guy Ali could beat?

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  1. Xplosive

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    Coming off beating the corpse that used to be Cotto, who's the best "name" guy from 147-154 that you could see Ali beating? I'd say Khan.
     
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    The best Guy Ali defeated was George Foreman.

    Oh...you mean Sadam Ali. Then why the fuck didn't you say so, motherfucker?!! ;)
     
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    Thread-worthy for an utterly shit boxer???
     
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    Xplosive always been fond of this chump ali
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    If I'm so fond of him why am I saying that Khan is the only name he could beat?
     
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    This is a "reality check," thread from X, designed to put in perspective Ali's victory over a shot Cotto and preempt the overrating that often occurs in the wake of a fight like Saturday's.
     
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    How bout Ali vs Porter?????
     
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    I'd pick Porter.
     
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    I'd root like Hell for you to be wrong, but considering Ali is inferior to Brook and Thurman, yes, I'd have to go with Shawn "Mickey Rourke" Porter (The Wrestler).
     
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    Danny Garcia.

    Of course Garcia has a puncher's chance, but I think the speed and movement of Ali would cause Danny too many problems.

    Kell Brook would beat the shit out of Ali and I think that's the perfect come back opponent for him at 154, especially if he's looking to grab a belt.
     
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    Brook is not beating the hell out of ali. I would probably pick him, but ali has a good shot. Damn is brook overrated
     
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    Agree. Really don't get it.
     
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    1. We don't know how much Brook has left now. Golov and Spence have most likely destroyed his eye for good. Plus, the eye aside, Spence beat him up pretty badly in general.

    2. In his pre-Golov form, Brook would stop Ali. Ali has a shitty chin, and Brook hits a HELLUVA lot harder than Jesse Vargas. Well, he's just a helluva lot better than Jesse Vargas in general.

    And LOL @ Double. He's just salty because Brook owned and exposed his scrubby hero.
     
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    Hold up.... this is a mystery to me. You said you'd pick Porter over Ali in such a confident manner. Yet you have doubts about the man who whupped Porter 9-3 beating Ali? LOL. Your bias is comical.
     
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    Brook would have stopped the Cotto from the Saturday night.
     
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    I don't beleive in this theory that Brook was ruined by GGG. He took a bad beating against Spence, so this might affect him in the future
     
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    First, all I was agreeing to is the fact that Brook os overrated, which he is. And you can repeat it all you want, but 9-3 is just stupid. You don't like Porter. I get it. But doesn't mean you have to be stupid.
     
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    9-3, 8-4 is the consensus scoring for Brook-Porter. You're the ONLY idiot here who thinks it was razor close. Brook won by a commanding margin.

    I don't dislike Porter. He seems like a really cool guy who would be great to hangout with.

    But his style is horrible.
     
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    115-113 Brook: 17
    115-114 Brook: 3
    116-112 Brook: 18
    116-113 Brook: 3
    117-111 Brook : 5
    117-112 Brook: 3
    114-114: 4
    115-113 Porter: 3
    115-114 Porter: 2
    116-112 Porter: 3
    117-113 Porter: 1


    This myth has to die. The majority of the writers either had it for Brook by 2 points or less, a draw or for Porter.

    Clear win my ass
     
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    The press can score it however they want. For my money, Brook won it pretty clearly.

    8-4 is a fair score. 7-5 is the most you can give it but you have to be super generous.
     
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    Some clowns also think that the world is flat, yet it doesn't make it a reality
     
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    What rounds did you have Porter winning?
     
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    I'm sorry, but my criteria for scoring fights always, always comes down to clean punching. And if you score Brook-Porter on cleaning punching, Shawn lost by a lot. He was actually more competitive with Thurman.
     
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    Don't be sorry. Just don't cite a consensus that does not exist.
     
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    7-5 is one round from a draw. And evidently not the "most," considering the tally of score cards. And hardly the clear win people like to tout these days.
     
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    Repeat the same lie enough time and it becomes truth. The most disturbing thing is that even when the proof of their lie is laid right before their eyes, the best they can do is to recite again the same mantra.
     
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    i was at the fight in carson. it was a shitty fight, as usually is the case when porter is involved. i thought brook clearly won from where i sat
     
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    I think I'm one of the most beautiful man in the world. But I'm wise enough to know that my opinion is not necessarly shared by the majority :lol:
     

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