Worst case of letting a fighter off the hook and going on to lose

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  1. BOSS

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    Self explanatory. Go on.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    I don't know if he was quite left off the hook, but Calzaghe was more hurt when he was dropped in the first round than Roy Jones seemed to realize.
     
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    I think Roy mentally realized it, but was too shot to capitalize. The first round alone tells you that prime for prime Roy would have beat the duck outta that slapping cokehead.

    Provodnikov could have stopped Bradley if he wasnt such a horrible finisher.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    He no doubt had almost no killer instinct left at that stage but I still don't think he was fully aware of how buzzed Calzaghe was. I believe it's because the shot that put him down wasn't a clean blow and therefore Roy didn't feel it.
     
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    Wlad should have finished Joshua but he was too old to seize the moment
     
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    Nice thread!!!

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    That was my pick also, but age had nothing to do with it . It eas because he lacks heart
     
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    Yeah, Cotto-Corley is a good example. Mig was out on his feet. What a horrible finisher Corley was.

    Speaking of Cotto, most recently, Ali would have stopped Cotto if he really put his foot on the gas. Mig was getting wobbled by every solid punch Ali landed. I think Ali was too worried about his own glass chin to jump on Cotto.
     
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    The first round tells us very little, really. Calzaghe was himself 36 at the time of that fight. He'd wasted his prime fighting absolute bums. He wasn't as shot as Jones was, but it was his last fight pre-retirement. He was miles past his own prime.

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    Eubanks - Collins I
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    LOL, come on. JC has no chance in hell against a prime RJ. His chin in the air defense would only get him countered to death
     
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    Of course he doesn't. Prime RJJ would have beaten Calzaghe comfortably. Calzaghe would have been without a speed advantage for the first time in his life, and would have paid horribly for it. But the first round of the time they actually fought (combined ages about 75) tells us nothing about that.

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    I don't think Maidana let Khan off the hook, he threw everything in that 10th round and Khan hung on. Then Khan landed a body shot in the 11th which took the wind out of Maidana's sails.
     
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    Maidana was yet another bad finisher.

    Bad finishers make you appreciate the GREAT finishers like Leonard, Tyson, and Hagler.
     
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    Khan was in terrible trouble and Maidana couldn't land a telling blow to finish the job on the most hurtable fighter in modern boxing.

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    He also fucked up after dropping and hurting Grant. And Ruiz.
     
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    I'm no Froch fan, but these guys like Maidana and Provo should have watched the last round of Froch-Taylor for how NOT to let a guy off the hook in a desperate situation.
     
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    Agreed, Maidana was an awful finisher. Pacquiao was actually a pretty poor finisher too.
     
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    Froch was a terrific finisher. Against Groves, Bute and Taylor, he went for it when he hurted them
     
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    Yeah, Pac Marquez deserves a mention, even if the fight ended in a draw
     
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    Cotto against the Colombian bum is also a great example. Guy looked absolutely dead
     
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    Oh for sure he was badly hurt but Maidana tried everything to get him out of there. I wouldn't say he let him off the hook. Eubank-Collins and Klitschko-Joshua are good examples because they had the opponent hurt but didn't press the issue.
     
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    Yeah, I'll give Froch that much. He was a good finisher when he got guys in trouble.
     
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    I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT agree that Pacquiao was a poor finisher. Marquez survived that 1st round shellacking because he was Marquez not because Pacquiao is a bad finisher. Juan Manuel Marquez was as badass as they come. They say that he was descended from Conan the Barbarian.
     
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    Coggi against Gonzalez, even if it was a travesty
     
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    Poor is an exaggeration, but Pac was never a great finisher.
     
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    I didn't specify the Marquez fight. I can't even really knock him for that one as the round ended and he'd put him down three times.

    I was thinking more the Cotto, Margarito, Algeiri fights from more recent years. He had all those guys out on their feet and couldn't put them away (the Cotto stoppage was a mercy TKO from the ref, Cotto could easily have gone the distance). Even in the Horn fight he had him ready to go and couldn't put him away.
     
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