Wilder vs Grant

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  1. Destruction and Mayhem

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    A few idiots a couple years ago had suggested that Grant would beat Wilder. Surely everyone has seen the light on this matchup since then.

    Wilder KO 2
     
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    Yeah, Wilder can pat himself on the back for the fact that he's proven to be better than Michael Grant.

    Wilder within 5.
     
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    Well yeah. Wilder hasn't proven he can hang with the greats as yet. Probably never will prove that with his obvious lack of boxing ability. Just pointing out that he has demonstrated enough for us to be sure he could get rid of Michael grant.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Not quite sure yet. Grant was not as bad as some remember.

    Against Lennox he screwed up by attacking all out, which he couldn't do at all. It was a very risky attempt, and it failed big time.

    People also remember how Golota quit against him after knocking him down early. Golota back then was a good fighter and Grant hung with him before getting him down. Not, in fact, very differently from Wilder.

    If Wilder was a good aggressor, I'd pick him to get through Grant's guard,but he is not. He is a furious finisher once he hurts his opponent, but he is only effective as a counter puncher.

    Wilder would probably win but if Grant fought smart, with his good jab, equal reach and big right hand he would cause Wilder plenty of trouble, and Grant's victory would be quite possible too
     
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    I don't see it. Grant really didn't hit all that hard and he had terrible balance and an awful chin. Golota only lost because he's a head case...or was a head case by that point in time, The Golota that fought Bowe would have easily defeated Grant IMO. There's no way Grant would avoid too many Wilder right hands, and when Wilder landed it'll be all over.
     
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    Grant wasn't as bad as people remember, I do agree with that. He never recovered psychologically from the Lewis destruction, but before that he was pretty good.

    I remember he was being compared to Bowe, and even when he was undefeated it was very apparent that he didn't have Bowe's talent.

    The problem with your breakdown is that Michael Grant and fighting smart is an oxymoron. Grant had an EXTREMELY LOW ring IQ, which was as big a problem as his weak chin and shitty defense.

    He'd be winning against Wilder for a few rounds, but the first big right Wilder lands, I doubt Grant's weak chin holds up.
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This is a very good point. However if I recall correctly Grant usually fought at very measured pace and that would make a bit tricky for Wilder too
     
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    Wilder come from behind mid-round KO
     
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    I'm sorry but Wilder would kill Grant like Lewis. Grant was dogshit.
     
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    Look at grant again. He was terrible. He’d have zero chance against Wilder
     
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    You can’t say zero chance. Wilder Is a bit chinny himself.
     
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    Grant was pretty decent before he got the memo he sucks. He beat Izon, obed sullivan, savarese, Golota. Once Grant realized he can't take punches he fought with ZERO confidence.

    So if Wilder fights the prime Grant. Pre Golota Grant you have to take into account Wilder wouldn't know Grants chin sucks. Therefore Wilder wouldn't do shit but faint a lot and give rounds away like he always does.

    50/50 fight
     
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    That's actually a pretty good way of describing it. He was very limited, but pre-Lewis, it's like he didn't realize it, therefore he was successful. In other words, he was the classic overachiever coming up the ranks.

    He and his team knew DAMN WELL that he didn't have the skill to outbox Lewis, so the game plan was to jump Lummox from the opening bell and hope for the best. It backfired.

    After Lewis destroyed him, he completely lost belief in himself, and since he didn't have much talent to begin with.... no confidence + limited ability = Total scrub.
     
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    From the sound of things I must have been the only person that expected Lewis to destroy Grant in 1 or 2 rounds. After seeing Golota drop Grant twice early I said to myself "Lewis would destroy this clown....worse than what he did to Ruddock". The only surprise to me was that Grant actually made it to round 2.

    Grant was shit from jump street
     
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    No, you're not the only one. I knew Lewis would take out Grant after the Golota fight. I expected Grant to last longer than 2, but wasn't at all shocked that it was over that quickly.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    He'd beat him but I doubt he does it Lewis style.

    I'm pretty sure Grant gets in his licks and I wouldn't be surprised if he floors Wilder. But it comes down to chin and toughness. And Wilder is better than Grant there. I think it goes a few rounds.

    Wilder KO 5
     

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