Frauds you saw coming....

What frauds did you call from the get go. I’m talking fighters that were getting all kinds of hype but you just refused to buy in.

The last one that I never bought into was Seth Mitchell.

I also saw the Chris Arreola bust coming from pretty far out.



Any others?

 

Michael Grant

 

Not sure I would call him a fraud, but I never really bought the Lemieux hype.

never was too impressed with Bojado.

 

Almost all of the sons of great fighters.

 

Andrew Six Heads Lewis.

Might seem almost crazy to fathom now, but after he KO'd James Page, there were many saying that Lewis was Mosley's top challenge at 147 and that he could potentially beat Shane. I didn't see it.

My feelings were confirmed after he struggled against a few bums, and was then destroyed by Mayorga.

 

Two future frauds that I see coming = Gervonta Davis and Shakur Stevenson.

 

Oleg Maskaev is another.

Going into the fight with Kirk Johnson, I shit you not, some people thought this bum could beat Lewis.

When Johnson wasted him, I was cracking up.

 

A mere con (I guess you could debate how big a fraud he was)

David Price

There's other guys that are in Con territory where I'm not sure "fraud" truly applies

 

Shane Mosley is FAR from being a fraud....but compared with the hype surrounding him after he defeated De La Hoya, he proved to be just as limited as I saw in him from the get go. There were many calling him the second coming of Robinson and even saying that he was superior to Robinson. Many felt that he was "the perfect fighter": speed, power, body punching, stamina, switch hitting, master boxing as well as infighting. I remember going out of my mind when subjected to that nonsense.

I was virtually on my own when I predicted that Forrest would outbox him...people on the forums thought I was crazy.

 

Doesn't fit the thread really

I mean I'm here having doubts about whether or not A Mere Con fits and you're tossing Shane Mosley out there

 

The Khan hype was getting pretty fuckin absurd right up until the Peterson fight. Both of us were telling his legion of groupies that the man was a fragile bum.

Then, his clown fans started calling the Peterson fight a fluke, and blamed it up on Peterson being juiced.

It wasn't until Cherry Garcia destroyed him that the myth thankfully died.

I think Khan fans probably look back and think "Da fuck were we thinking?"

 

I realize that...but he proved to not be as good as the hype and I saw it coming.

 

I'd consider Con a fraud. He fuckin blows and always has.

Sly needs to GTFOH with his Mosley hatred.

The word fraud and Shane Mosley belong nowhere near eachother. He was overrated pre-Forrest, but the man was an excellent fighter and is a rightful HOFmer.

Stupid choice.

 

Compared to his hype, yes, the lil cheater is somewhat of a fraud. Especially when you consider that MOST objective fans think he lost to Lara and Golov. And when you consider that Trout had an edge on him until the incredibly corrupt open scoring was read.

 

I guess the Wald fight proven that he isn't a "fraud" but I definitely don't think AJ's actual quality as a fighter matches his enormous hype. Wilder is in the same boat.

Neither one is that good, to be perfectly honest. When they fight, it'll simply determine who is more overrated.

 

Andre Berto is another fraud I saw coming. Granted, I didn't see the Ortiz loss coming, but can't say I was shocked. It was extremely apparent after the Cosme Rivera fight that Berto was a hype machine waiting to crumble.

 

Clifford Ettienne

 

Antonio Margarita...






REED

 

I realize Eric Lindros is not a boxer or a fraud but he proved to not be as good as the hype and I saw it coming.

 

I loved that Garcia fight... shouting in my apartment... wife the next morning "who is Danny and who were you telling him to Get?"

 

Absolutely... I had him down as trash from the get go

 

Broner.

 

Why would anyone think you were crazy? Lots of people made that prediction and many of the experts in boxing circles who saw Forrest dominate Mosley in the amateurs were picking Forrest in that fight. Ring magazine did a pick em poll and although Mosley was favored in it, it wasn’t by a very big margin.

I still remember how this fight was probably the most nervous I was for any fight ever, because I knew how dangerous it was and had read so many experts who said Forrest would always be a tough out for Shane.

So maybe you got that pick right but I’m certain it wasn’t the grand shocker you’re making it out to be. I’d like to think our posters here are smarter than that.

 

Maskaev was a fraud? First I have heard of it.

Thrown in with Oliver McCall in his 7th fight.

Thrown in with Tua, whom he was beating on points before being stopped in the 10th round...........in his 12th fight.

Maskaev was brought in as a piece of meat by Rahman, and stopped the guy outright. He then beat Derrick Jefferson in an upset.

He was brought to Europe to "lose" to Sinan Samil Sam. The promotion material barely mentioned Maskaev who was brought over as a "high profile" name for Sam to beat up.

Sam even headbutted the guy when he realized he was going to lose.

That win kept Maskaev in the WBC ratings and after Vitali retired Maskaev beat Rahman again on a clear stoppage.

The guy was never a fraud.

 

Gervonta isn't going to fight any of the top 130lbers to get exposed imo.

 

Yeah, same here.

I could not believe it when people kept banging on about how "talented" he was. All I saw was a pretty average fighter, basic and plodding, with decent handspeed and a pretty good lead right. That's it.

Truly bizarre, this guy has to be the single most overrated fighter of the modern era. He got talked about as an elite fighter from the get go, and he is far from it.

No surprise he got exposed against every good fighter he ever fought, and is now basically a joke.

 

Broner destroyed his career potential by moving up to welterweight. He’s a small guy, with a small frame....he had no business leaving lightweight

 

Broner looked like magic against DeMarco. He was a very talented fighter. Now, he probably always lacked the motivation to be a great one, even if he didn't moved up in weight

 

Broner was bang average. He was also a weight bully.