Nah, Broner certainly isn't in that company for me. I did kinda hate him at one point, but at this point he's not even worth anyone's energy enough to hate, he's kind of a joke. I'm totally objective with him. Like I said, his only impressive win is DeMarco 6 years ago at 135. WTF has he done at 140+ other than get slapped about by Maidana, Porter and Garcia? Who has he beaten? He simply has done nothing to be talked about as a top welter, nothing at all. Vargas beat the crap out of "Sadam" who is a current titleholder at 154, he should be a heavy, heavy favourite to win.
Yeah, I was gonna say.... there's a pretty big difference between lacking objectivity when it comes to actual quality fighters like Hamed, Tito, and Tszyu.... and then there's Broner.... Nothing Mex said is really incorrect. Except, to Broner's credit, he DID look impressive against Allakherdiev... much moreso than Jesse did.... but that was three years ago. You can argue that AB has regressed since then, while Vargas has gained more experience and improved. I think it's going overboard to say that Vargas should be a "heavy heavy" favorite. He's not an elite fighter... but he should be the favorite, and he is. I think Vargas will take control starting in the mid rounds, and AB will do what he ALWAYS does in those situations... go into survival mode.
Broner ISN'T a Top Welter, Bro...REED Actually AGREES w/the Vast Majority of What You're Saying... REED's Point is, Vargas AIN'T All That Either...Like Broner, he's LOST to the Best Guys he's Faced... REED's Never Been Terribly Impressed w/Sadam Ali and Beating an Old, Effectively RETIRED Miguel Cotto Didn't Change REED's Opinion of Him...Would it Surprise You @ All if Liam Smith (Who's NOT All That Either) Beat Ali???...It Wouldn't Surprise REED... This ISN'T About REED Buying Into Broner or Thinking he's an Elite Fighter...Clearly, he ISN'T...But in Terms of LEVELS, REED Doesn't See Vargas Being on a HIGHER One than Broner @ All...They're the SAME Guy in that Regard, in REED's Opinion... REED
REED, do you have any insight as to how Spence feels about the Charlo/AB beef? Because I know he's friends with both sides.
EJ's Staying OUT of It... Because he Knows Them Both and Because he Knows How VOLATILE the Situation Could Get, he's Said NATHAN That Would Make him Appear to Be Showing Favoritism Either Way... In his Own Words, "I Stay Out of it and Let Grown Men Do What They Do"...REED Might've Heard the Word "Unfortunate" Leave EJ's Mouf Also... REED's Never Seen Anything Quite Like This Nonsense...Beef btwn Dudes on the A-Side of a Particular Card, Who Aren't Even Within Each Other's Weight Range???... All the While, the Fight will Be in Brooklyn and there's No Doubt Daniel Jacobs Will Be in Attendance, Heavily Cliqued Up...This Could Potentially Be a VERY Bad Night for Boxing...Like Bowe-Golota I Bad, or WORSE... REED
That's fair enough. I mean yeah don't me wrong, I've never considered Vargas an elite fighter, and you're right he has lost to the best guys he's faced just like Broner. But the difference is, Bradley and Pacquiao are better than anyone Broner has faced. And he's also proven more at 147 even with just that one win against Sadam. While I agree Sadam aint great at all, it by far trumps what Broner has done at 147. I mean, do you realise that other than getting thumped by both Maidana and Porter, all he's done at 147 is win 2 split decisions over Adrian Granados and Paulie fucking Maginaggi? He's absolutely horrible at 147. I mean, like Xplosive said perhaps I went overboard by saying Vargas should be a heavy heavy favourite, as he's not exactly a beast himself, and he's not levels above Broner but he is a clear level above IMO, and should be more of a clear favourite than he is.
REED Thinks Al Haymon Spoke to the Fighters Behind the Scenes, to Squash the Back and Forth on Social Media... But Sensitive Ass Dudes have Looooooooooong Memories and 1nce They're Around Each Other, in the Same Venue, w/Yes Men in Tow, All Bets are Off... REED
What started this silly "beef" anyway? Charlo generally taking exception to what an utter bellend Broner is? If so, perfectly understandable I guess
Jermall Charlo's Opponent, Huge Centeno Jr., Injured a Rib and the Fight was Pushed Back to This Particular Card... Broner and Tank Weren't Thrilled w/Charlo Being Inserted into Their Doubleheader and Posted on Social Media About it...1nce Jermall Got Wind of This, he Posted an EPIC Diss Video on Instagram... Those that Loathe Broner and Tank HAVE to See that Damn Video...It's GOLD...REED's Watched it @ Least 1nce a Day for the Last Couple Weeks or So... As for Jermell Charlo, Since his Twin Brother is Beefing, he's Beefing by Association... REED
Danny would be stupid to start anything with the Charlo bros THIS WEEK.... cause Sulecki is a good fighter and it's no given that Danny wins NEXT WEEK. Charlo has it easier because he's fighting Sulecki's SON tomorrow. Both need to handle their business, then hopefully... Jacobs-Charlo at Barclays in the fall.
My concern w/the video is that Charlo seemed DRUNK! But yeah, it was funny as Hell and accurate. "You stuttering, slow, dumb talkin muthafucka." Davis is slow as all Hell....
Charlos need to distance themselves from the situation though.... they both have a lot more potential. AB has already crashed, and Davis to me is a train wreck waiting to happen.
Jacobs Strikes REED as a MATURE, LEVEL-HEADED Dude...He Won't Start Anything HIMSELF... But You Never Know When Members of Opposing Cliques are in the Same Vicinity Bruh...You Know How Shit Can Get in Those Situations... REED
Along with that Quote, REED's Favorite Part is When Charlo Starts Doing the Mayweather Mitt Work Routine..."Patty-Cake Padwork", as he Now Calls It... And Yeah, Tank Davis Interviews are BRUTAL...He Hasn't Fought Looooooooooooong Enough to Be Punch Drunk, yet he SOUNDS Like He Is... Tank's Better SEEN, Not Heard... REED
What's sad is, when TV crews come to the hood to conduct interviews, if there's one brotha who talks like Andre Ward and another who talks like Tank, reporters will go STRAIGHT to the muhfucka who talks like Tank.
"He really said that??? In Spanish? Fa real?? He really know how to speak Spanish????" Davis a different level of slow...
Yep, Which is Why People Like Irish ASSume All Blacks Speak a Particular Way in the Hood... To Your Point, a Brother Could Be in a Collared Shirt and Slacks, Yet the TV Crew ALWAYS Goes to the Most ETHNICALLY Dressed Brother...Instead of Interviewing the Brother that Just Got Off from his Office Job, They Choose the 1 that Looks Like Big Worm from "Friday"... REED
REED Might Have the Timeline Messed Up, but he's Pretty Sure the Coke Rumor Resulted from How SLURRED Charlo was Talking in the Video... But Charlo Claims He Had a Particularly Hard Workout That Day and was Just Tired... REED
Having fought Mikey Garcia in his previous fight, this could be ideal facing Vargas next. Vargas isn't on the same level as Garcia, in terms of intelligence, ring generalship and skill, but Broner showed his toughness and got some good licks in. Plus, he went the distance. You would think that having fought one of the best fighters currently around, Broner will have learnt a fair bit to take in to his next fight and if he is as pissed as he seems, having lost so often and not getting the credit he thinks he deserves, he might just put in a good showing this weekend and shut his doubters up...a little. To me though, he still comes across as the clown he always has been and I just cant take him seriously. He's running out of time and options so it really is now to do something about it. This is a winnable fight for him but he's going to have to meet fire with fire and make Vargas pay for any mistakes he makes, because Vargas will make mistakes. This is an interesting matchup.
I can't bring myself to dislike Davis, I almost feel sorry for him, for being such a tard. I get the impression he's not a bad guy, just really fucking stupid, and a bit too ghetto for his own good.
I know that Davis is slow in the head, but is he on something in this vid? Seems like he's high on coke.
agREED... You Can Tell There's GOOD In Him...He's Quick to Smile, Accommodating, Almost FRIENDLY, If You Will... Literally, There was GLEEFUL Shock in his Face When Seckbach Noted Broner Speaking Spanish...Like a Child Surprised w/a Gift on Christmas...What Championship Level Fighter Does That These Days???...Especially Black Fighters, Who Bend Over Backwards to be "Cool"... People Like Gervonta Truly Are VICTIMS of Their Upbringing, Their Surroundings, Their Influences...Whether Those Influences are Good or Bad... Dude Has (Maybe) a Couple IQ Points on Forrest Gump, But That's It...And in the Wrong Hands, He Could Wind Up Being Just Another Broke, Has-Been Boxer, Back in the Hood Beating People Up for Drug Money... REED