BEST Fight, WORST Fight, BEST KO, Biggest UPSET Potential on June 9th?

So yes, the boxer will knock-out a stationary target or if he gets close-enough to land a shot on the chin (oh, this is assuming he has a decent level of punching-power) all the while avoiding incoming from an opponent and if he keeps his legs from giving way from 3-4 kicks or is able to avoid being taken down and choked-out, sure.

You clearly have a lot of knowledge about Boxing.
Well done.
But that's all you got.
Like 99% of the boxing-tards who post on here and lament the 'good-old-days-Queensbury-Rules-and-'only-girls-kick'-brigade'.
Hopkins blurted on about that for years until he got educated.

All you need now is to study more fighting styles to add to your forgotten-about repertoire and you'll be on my level.



Understood, sonny?

 

I believe Mex. He is a tiny guy and thus his whole life has been a fight. He also has looked people from the toe level and knows if they can be bent or not

 

I don't know if Mex does but I work my toes out regularly just in case some rogue MMA dude attempts to shoot in and bend them.

 

That's wise of you.

You might also add some punching training though. MMA humpers are willing to go toe-to-toe with anybody, literally, but they won't expect to get hit. You might be able to surprise them with this tactic.

Though if you avoid gay bars, chances are that you won't run to them anyway

 

Jermell handled Trout every bit as well as Jarmell did. In fact, he beat him easier imo.

 

I agree that he won easier tha Jermall did but he definitely didn’t impress too much.

 

I don't think you really understand the difference between boxing and the scrub sports you love.

See, boxing is a sport with a huge talent pool and A level athletes. MMA is a scrub sport full of C and D level athletes getting elbowed into bolivian and choked unconscious for 20k.

An elite boxer's speed, power, timing, accuracy, stamina, footwork, defense, and pretty much every other core requirement of being an elite fighter shits all over elite MMA fighters.

Look what happens when you get a legit A level athlete in MMA like Romero - he basically cleans up against these C level scrubs, even at the age of 40.

Floyd Vs Pillowfists McGregory told us all we need to know about the 2 sports. A prime P4P MMA fighter known as one of the hardest punchers in the sport looked like Paulie fucking Maginaggi against a retired 40 year old 20 pounds lighter. He literally had Paulie level power, couldn't punch for shit by boxing standards, no torque, no snap, no technique. Floyd was the puncher in that fight, a guy not even known for his power at elite level, at all.

LOL at "assuming he has a decent level of punching power". That's the whole point you idiot, every elite boxer hits hard, much harder than MMA fighters, and that's one of the reasons why the MMA fighter would get KTFO.

Defending against boxing is hard, which is why you get even get amateur level boxers like Conor and Cody and Stipe dominating MMA fighters with boxing. MMA fighters don't have the experience and skill to defend against decent boxing, it takes years to develop boxing defense. That's exactly why an elite boxer would KTTFO before they even knew what happened, they simply wouldn't see the shot coming, and would not have the chin to take it.

And don't get me wrong, I love MMA, it's incredibly fun to watch. Yesterday's card was hilarious, including the freakshow fight, but MMA fighters can't be compared to boxers. It's a new sport with a shallow talent pool, so it stands to reason the average MMA fighter is simply nowhere near as talented as the average boxer.

 

A younger trout would have boxed his ears off

 

You know how I feel about Crawford, I've been saying stuff like this for years.

Having said that he did look better than expected at 147, significantly stronger, and he actually looked faster and sharper than usual. There's something to be said for not cutting too much weight. The size advantage you get from boiling down is often nullified by the fact that you're weakened by a serious weight cut. Mosley looked much faster and snappier at 147, and needless to say Pacquiao and Floyd did pretty fucking well moving up too.

But ultimately I find it absurd people think this guy is P4P #1. He's not even beaten one elite fighter in his prime. Gamboa was old and tiny, and was actually lighting Crawford up before Crawford's size advantage started to play a role.

Postol is decent at world level but nothing more than that. I expect Josh Taylor to beat him just as easily as Little Terry did, maybe more so.

 

It seems like beating Horn does make you P4P #1

BoxRec

 

The Charlos in one way look great, they have speed and power and some skill, they can clearly fight - but there's something missing that I can't put my finger on. Like, they're just not quite as good as they look somehow.

Despite the lack of experience I honestly think Munguia beats both of them.

 

I'm a solid 5'2, and 120 pounds of pure muscle. You're what, 6'5 and 140 pounds? Do you reckon you could outbox me Ugo?

 

Crawford's definitely in need of a standout win that puts him over the top, I don't deny that. Still Mex, I have to say I'm surprised he doesn't pass the eye test for you, I think the guy is quality.

 

They’re both very good offensive fighters. Their skill level is good. Both can obviously punch hard. And they seem able to take a punch. Both know how to fight, that’s for sure.

Defensively, neither guy is special. I think that’s their biggest weakness. In Jermall’s case, his stamina seems “ehh.”

But they’re both young and have upside. Jermall may or may not catch Golovkin at the right time (Basically on the way down).

Both are very good, but flawed fighters.

 

Agreed.

He’s easily one of the top guys p4p. I won’t say number 1 but if he does beat Spence(I’d pick Spence to win), he’s undoubtedly number 1.

There’s a reason Pac wanted nothing to do with him, even at his age.

 

horn does hold a win over the 3 time champ

 

Point is, there's not much evidence to say Jermall is better than Jermell.

 

Yeah true they are not that good defensively and have some flaws, but I think it's more than that.

Despite obvious talent and skill, even their offense doesn't impress me as much as it should given their obvious talent and some good results (Williams, Lubin etc) - maybe it's that they're on the basic and predictable side at this level? Compared to the Chenkos, Golovkins, and Spences of the world anyway.

Dunno we'll see, but there is something about them that makes me feel like they're not quite as good as they should be.

I'd like to see Jarmall - Jacobs and Jermell - Munguia.

 

I'd agree with that. Some people seem to think Jarmall is far better, I'd rate them about equally.

 

I know he's good, don't get me wrong, a very solid and skilled fighter - not unlike Mikey.

But THAT good? P4P #1 good? It just surprises me people are quite so high on him, especially given his lack of a single really good win.

I do realise I'm in the minority with little Terry though, even my boy Chenko speaks very highly of him etc.

 

I'm starting to like the Charlos. They don't seem picky about who they fight. They're not safety first and they're not afraid to mix it up. And they don't pretend like they're gang bangers.

 

I think Jermall is a bit more dynamic. Jermell is the more fundamentally sound of the two.

But I’d like to see either get another major win before we can say for sure.

 

Yeah I agree I like them, they wanna fight anyone and they come to fight.

 

You´ve gone and done exactly what I thought you´d do and focus purely on punching ability/accuracy/power...and that´s fine. I get it, because you love boxing and you couldnt bear to see a boxer get annihilated in a no-holds barred fight, outside of boxing rules.
It´s a pride-thing.

You´re basically shitting on every other form of combat-sport, Kick-boxing, Muay-Thai, Karate, Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling, and using Mayweather-McGregorski as the blueprint for ¨Look! Told you! Boxing is best! Yeah-yeah-yeah!!!!¨





Because you´re a FightBeat Poster.

 

This is a boxing forum. You decided to fuck up a thread with a bunch of trolling MMA bullshit because you're a mouthy minger who needs his fucking gob pulverized with a brick

 

Yeah Mustard, ruining a perfectly good thread with your lust for overly tattooed D level athletes rolling around bending each other's toes back etc.

 

To stay on topic, I guess it goes to show Pacquiao really is borderline shot now for even struggling with Horn.

Manny has more or less made a career out of eating pressure fighters for breakfast, he should have chewed up a basic scrub pressure fighter like that Aussie in just a few rounds.

What kind of a chance are you guys giving Lucas against Pacquiao?

 

Matthysse is more patient, I think Manny should win yet another points decision.

 

Pacquiao still has some hand speed on him but you have to figure that Matthysse has a chance with his punching power. Manny is there to be hit so he will definitely take some shots.

I got Manny winning a decision with some scary moments.