Spence vs Mosley Spence vs Forrest Spence vs ODH Spence vs Margarito Spence vs Cotto Spence vs Brown My guess is many here would pick Spence to win all these fights. No?
Based on styles, his biggest threat on that list is prime Mosley. I think Spence is a horrible matchup for the Golden Bisexual and would outfight Oscar down the stretch. Oscar had stamina issues WITHOUT somebody punishing his body. Forrest was simply a good fighter who had the style to beat a better fighter. Simon Brown was a bit too basic. Spence would outbox him. Spence beats the living shit outta Margarito and Cotto. Trinidad is the one who seems like a bad matchup for Spence.
Brown would test the extent of Spence’s boxing skills. I could see DLH outpointing Spence to the point that a bad finish didn’t matter. He was really quick and mobile and we don’t how well Spence can defend and attack against that kind of offense. I think Mosley outfights him at this point.
spences whiskers would be put to the test if he had to face a prime 3 time champ randall bailey. ask mike jones
Spence has all physical the tools to have beaten Oscar. It's only a question of the intangibles, which he APPEARS to have. Obviously, Oscar's speed and jab are a problem for Spence. Problem is, Oscar was at a natural handicap against southpaws, considering he couldn't wipe his ass with his right hand. Spence can be nailed with right hands, but he really doesn't get tagged cleanly often with left hooks. I see no reason why Spence couldn't wear Oscar down and outfight and even OUTBOX him enough to win a deserved decision. Oscar has the edge in speed, explosiveness, and agility, but Spence has the edge in size, stamina, physical strength, accuracy, punch variety, body punching, and IMO ring IQ. I've ALWAYS ALWAYS said and will continue to say... Oscar wasn't a particularly smart fighter. Spence comes across as a far more intelligent operator. If Spence could handle Oscar's power, I definitely favor him. Oscar was more flashy, but overall, Spence is the better technician of the two.
Maybe, but I could see Oscar bouncing on his toes and peppering Spence in and out until Spence got wreckless and ran into something. I could see Mosley bombing him with right hands. Kell Brook is the best guy Spence has fought and he gave him a lot of trouble with his movement and punching from angles.
Considering Spence has yet to be even a LITTLE bit hurt, let alone big time hurt, we can't just assume that Oscar and Mosley could bomb him out. With Crawford, you can make the argument, since he's actually be wobbled before, but Spence has never been noticeably troubled by anything. Brook nailed him with a beautiful right uppercut that would have seriously hurt virtually any other welterweight... it froze Spence for like a second, then he kept on coming forward. And I have a hard time seeing Oscar dance around Spence all night considering Spence knows how to the cut ring, and wouldn't just follow Oscar around like a zombie the way a weight drained Tito did.
Spence has fought one real top level opponent and he struggled with the guys hand and foot speed and took a lot of shots. He’s like 30 years old and 3-0 in world title fights. You’re making a lot of assumptions about what he can do and how he’d respond at a level he’s never come close to fighting.
I don't rebember gamboa wobbling crawford. He hit him with a lot of shots, but i dont think he ever stunned.him
You're really, really overstating how much Spence "struggled" versus Brook. To an extreme, in fact. Here's the TRUTH: the fight was even through 6 rounds, then became totally one sided in Spence's favor. I wouldn't call that a "struggle" at all. And Spence didn't take NEARLY as many shots as you're making it seem. He actually blocked/parried/slipped a good number of Brook's shots... this wasn't Brandon Rios getting hit with every punch his opponent throws. If you're gonna call Spence-Brook a struggle, yet overlooked the fact that Oscar was TRULY struggling against Oba Carr, then I dunno what to tell you. And despite all the hype and overrating of Carr, the guy was not as good as Brook.
Oscar struggled Carr and Quartey enough for me to believe that he probably loses a close decision to Spence, depending on the judges of course. But overall, the natural size, strength, and work rate that Spence brings would be extremely problematic for Oscar if he is in fact unable to hurt Spence with his power because his chance at winning this fight depends on maintaining distance so that his hand speed and movement buy him the time he’d need. Tito was in fact weight drained when he fought Oscar and should have made the move to 154 around 1997 but stayed for another 2 years after the Norris fight failed to materialize. A non-weight drained Tito beats Oscar in a close fight IMO, possibly hurting him badly down the stretch.
I don’t know if Brook was better than Carr. Carr never had a chance to pick up a belt and a “big win” against a mid level guy like Shaun Porter like Spence did or to fight a faded, damaged big name like Trout did with Cotto but they all seem about the same level to me. Carr caused a lot more trouble in his step up bouts and he did it against a really high level o opposition. The main thing to look for in Spence at this point is what kind of long range boxing skills and what kind of hands he has. He’s a competent boxer and he has some explosiveness at mid range but he looks vulnerable when he’s left out there. At this point it seems like elite guys would have a lot of chances to toss free bombs at him as he tries to in his way in.
Oba Carr was arguably the most overrated fighter of the 90s. Brook is far from Ray Leonard good, but he's a pretty good fighter, and I'd say better than Carr. Carr was a bit more fluid on his feet than Brook, but Brook's technical skill was just as good and he's a much bigger puncher than Carr was.
I don’t remember Carr being especially hyped or overrated except maybe coming into the Trinidad fight when he was an undefeated contender. Brook was a better can opener but Carr seemed to have more to offer against top guys. He always caused trouble and guys like Brook, Thurman, Porter, Garcia, etc aren’t special guys an they can lose a fight where the opponent has success. They could lose to Carr.
too early to tell really but I like Spence and think he is going to improve and do even better Crawford was buzzed vs Gamboa for sure but handled it well
