Josh Taylor vs Ryan Martin

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  1. Double L

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    Yeah he did. He complained. Fights are 12 rounds for a reason.
     
  2. Xplosive

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    Martin wasnt turning shit around, even if it was a 25 round fight.

    He looked like he didnt have it from the opening round. And his face was getting busted up.

    My policy on early stoppages is that I only get outraged if they occur in a competitive fight.

    In fights that are one sided and the winner looks academic, I kinda shrug them off.
     
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    So do you think they should have a seven round rule? If a fighter loses seven rounds in a row the ref should stop it because it's obvious who is going to win?

    I get it that early stoppages are more infuriating if it's a close fight. But even when it's not, it is still not fair or just. There are come from behind victories all the time in boxing. The guy winning becomes overconfident. Or he gets tired or even just bored. Referee is giving the winning fighter an unfair advantage by sparing him having to fight through the later rounds, and have discipline and conditioning to do so.
     
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    You gotta take quick stoppages on a case-by-case basis, Doub.

    In THIS particular case, I'm GLAD it was stopped. Martin was offering NOTHING. Nada. Not a fuckin thing. To the point where Abel Sanchez was gonna stop it soon.

    He wasnt coming back. Martin's not a banger to begin with, and his punches had zero snap or speed on them. Why? Because he was too tense, and he was tense because he was overwhelmed by the moment, and also overwhelmed by Taylor.

    So once again, I'm glad it was called off. It was nothing more than a world class fighter teeing off on a punching bag.
     
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    Lemme ask you something Doub, if Jones-Hall was stopped circa round 7-8 instead of the 11th, would it be a big deal?

    Only you cant even compare the two, because Richard Hall was TRYING every single round against Roy. He was getting the shit beaten outta him, but never stopped trying.

    Martin wasnt trying. Not at all.

    Much as I fuckin HATE to quote that hack Teddy Atlas, Martin was being a "game quitter".

    I never care to watch Martin ever again.

    Last week, we saw the incredibly limited Anthony Yigit show TREMENDOUS heart against Baranchyk despite being outgunned and despite his eye being destroyed.

    Martin could only HOPE to have the heart of Yigit.
     
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    He Gave a Cursory Complaint...It was More "Let Me ACT Like I'm Complaining About the Stoppage", Because Mere SECONDS Later, Martin was Almost Gleefully Embracing Taylor...

    Martin was More RELIEVED the Fight was Over Than DISAPPOINTED About it Being Stopped...That Was Obvious...

    Good Stoppage, No...The Shot was CLEARLY Behind the Head...But Taylor ALREADY Had Martin in his Back Pocket...Martin Wasn't Putting Forth Any Level of RISK Suggesting He was Still TRYING to Win...He Was Shelled Up the Vast Majority of the Fight, CATCHING Shots...





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    So do you think all one sided fights should just be stopped?
     
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    What I'm saying is, if a totally one sided fight in which the losing fighter has no shot at a comeback gets stopped a lil quickly, it's not a big enough deal for me to be outraged.

    That fight was already over. Abel Sanchez was gonna stop it between rounds within the next 1-2 rounds because Martin was getting beaten up and not trying.

    Martin wasnt gonna miraculously find a solution. It was abundantly clear that he was outmatched, both physically and psychologically.

    Guy is too soft to be a world class fighter. He can feast on bums with his talent alone, but he showed last night that mentally he's never gonna make it at world level.

    If Taylor had stopped him but Martin went out on his shield, guns blazing, then I'd say he still has a future. But the way he performed and went out clearly showed the big time ain't for him.
     
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    Scotland must think that brothas have zero heart. That bitch Ohara Davies also quit against Taylor.
     
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    Depends on the Level of EFFORT Being Displayed by the Losing Fighter...

    X's Jones-Hall Comparison was On Point...Every Bit as 1-Sided as Taylor-Martin, Maybe Even MORE 1-Sided...But Hall EARNED the Right to Remain IN the Fight by TRYING...





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    Taylor's Speed and Activity TAKES Dudes Hearts From Them...His Body Blows are MEATY as Well, and Neverending...And Just When he Senses His Foe is Breaking, Taylor RAMPS UP the Activity...

    Few Lulls, No "Silent Agreements", Taylor Keeps his Opponents OCCUPIED Physically and Mentally, Chipping Away @ Their Self Belief...In This PARTICULAR Regard, He's Somewhat Reminiscent of Lomachenko…






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    Good call, I just got through watching the fight, then rewatched the Davis one and was thinking much the same thing.
     
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    Indeed.

    Taylor is the goods. The thing I like most about him is that he's a mean sonuvabitch in there. More ruthless than Loma... Loma is more about clowning guys. Taylor is in there to do serious hurt.

    I'm really torn on who I'm picking when he fights Rougarou.

    TODAY, I'm actually slightly leaning Taylor.

    But I'll make an official prediction based on how they look against Relikh/Baranchyk, respectively.
     
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    No Doubt, Rougarou vs. the Tartan Tornado Is an Outstanding Matchup...

    Their Styles Mesh Well on Paper, it's HARD Making a Pick, Yet EASY Envisioning Both Being Forced Into Situations and Adversity They've YET to Experience as Pros...

    Must-See Fight, if Not a "Mainstream" Fight...






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  15. Xplosive

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    I said on here probably about a year ago, that Taylor is sorta kinda like a white Spence.

    He doesn't have Spence's booming power, and he isn't as durable as Spence (Postol hurt him), but there are similarities.

    Both mean/ruthless southpaws with no take no prisoners styles, both dig the body with conviction, both seem to have great stamina, ect...
     
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    More Fast Twitchy than Spence, But There's Similarities for Certain...






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