Tyson Fury v Deontay Wilder

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  1. BOSS

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    The verdict ruins an incredible movie worthy story. A simple gypsy man with a pregnant gypsy wife watches Mike Tyson wreck havoc on boxing. The man names his new born baby boy Tyson in honor of Mike. Little Tyson grows up and pursues boxing like his namesake. Nobody believes in him and thinks of him as a joke. He challenges the unbeatable 10 year reigning champion on the champion's turf and beats him!!!! thus becoming a heavyweight champion of the world just like the man he was named after!!Afterwards the demons get the best of him. Tyson balloons up to 400 pounds and becomes a suicidal drug addict. While on the brink of suicide he decides to come back to beat this undefeated power punching monster of a champion. Tyson drops the drug addiction drops the weight and gets in the ring with this undefeated monster. Outboxes the hell out of him only to get dropped hard in the last round... and as he's laying there hurt he decides just like depression and the drugs couldn't keep him down neither will this man... so he gets up at 9 as Wilder is dancing around and celebrating victory... not only does Tyson get up but he beats the hell out of him for the remainder of the round.....the scores are are read and it's!!! a... draw....... mother fuckers
     
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    What's really crazy is even if Wilder didn't score those KDs one judge would still give him the fight:D:D:D
     
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    Fury won, hands down, balls of steel, great defense and movement, made Wilder miss a lot. Threw a great triple jab and a good 1-2. Good job by Fury.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yeah Wilder was always gonna come away with his title. He was virtually SHUT OUT and still got a draw. The corruption in the sport is at an all time high.
     
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    LOL
     
  6. Lucius Gold

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    Americans can shut up now. Never fight in America.

    Fury got the decision in Germany, he couldn't get it in the USA.

    Same with Canelo vs GGG and Kovalev vs Ward.
     
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    I haven't watched boxing in a while so I am not aware if the knockdowns rule changed, you know from a 10-8 or 10-7 (if more than one knockdown occurred) favoring the aggressor, to 10-9 for the one who kissed passionately the canvas.
     
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    If you can lose a round 10-8 without being dropped then you can be able to lose a round 9-8 where you are dropped.

    The 12th was such a round.
     
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    BazookaJ WBC Champion

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    You guys are funny.

    The challenge for Fury wasn’t just to fight at his pace and keep things negative but to take advantage of that pace by scoring and decisively winning rounds. Oh, and not getting dropped like a sack of shit. He didn’t really start to take control until the middle and late rounds and that’s when he got dropped. Some guys laughed when I said Wilder was out jabbing Fury but there were early rounds where a stiff jab or two from Wilder seemed to nick the round. You have to refuse to allow Wilder to win any of these close rounds to argue a robbery.
     
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    Lmao!!!!!

    You clowns are trying to rewrite the rule books yet Fury won clearly and was robbed?
     
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    What is this absurdity that the 12th wasnt a 10-8 round for Wilder. Fury almost got killed. Hell, he was lucky that the ref didn't immediately waved the fight since he dropped like he just was shot, and was laying prone on the canvas for a few seconds.

    Him getting up and winning the rest of the round is admirable, but it was still an obvious 10-8 round
     
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    The way Fury fell dead actually saved him because the ref didn’t start the count immediately as he was checking for signs of life, and Fury struggled to his feet at 8 or 9. The ref also asked a few extra sets of questions when Fury got up and it let his head clear.
     
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    Except Wilder was outworked and out landed in arguably every round, even the ones he scored the knockdown in. He was virtually ineffective throughout. Completely neutralized. Wilder was definitely not out jabbing nor out power punching Fury. There is literally nothing anyone can point to as a valid point for him winning more than 3 rounds. And 3 rounds is being generous.
     
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    You’re showing bias to “the boxer” by giving him rounds for “neutralizing” the other guy and ignoring who actually landed what.

    You had Fury sweeping rounds because you liked the way he danced more than Wilder but he wasn’t dominating the rounds at all until about half way thru, then he got dropped.
     
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    Fury did more than just dance. He landed clean jabs and right hands and even some bodyshots.
     
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    Great example of 'Fury is shit' and 'I don't like Fury' and 'Wilder will KO Fury' and then, when the script doesnt go according to how you see it, trying to be all 'clever like' and fitting it in to some ridiculous narrative afterwards.

    Typical Fightbeater.
     
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    I agree with your point but Canelo is Mexican so not sure it is a good example.
     
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    Yeah. Everyone knew going in Wilder's only chance was to stop him. And he didn't. So he lost. Because he only won two rounds.
     
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    Yes, obviously he threw and landed punches over the course of the fight but I didnt see him having a clear edge until the middle rounds.

    This is how a lot of controversial decisions happen. People perceive one guy as the boxer that has keep things slow and negative and one guy as the puncher that has to make things happen. When the fight starts slow people just hand the boxer rounds for keeping things quiet and assume it’s going to stay that way. When things heat up later the scoring of the early dull rounds becomes important.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    Lmao. Yeah, that seems to be the logic.
     
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    You guys need to rewatch this fight sober. Fury won 9 rounds and 3 rounds were a draw. Fifth was a 10-10 and the kd rounds were 9-9. 118-109 Fury.
     
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    Sound logic.
     
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    Funniest thing here is, BazookaTroll is somehow trying to make one of the worst boxers in history to somehow win a fight on points that everyone, yes, everyone unanimously called a Fury shut-out.

    Because BazookaFail is a try-hard boxing 'connossieur' who can see things nobody else did, yeah?

    Stick to your Star Wars movies, son....leave the sports to the proper guys.
     
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    I said during the fight that Fury wasn’t showing any offense and the rounds were close. I said before the decision was read that it could go either way. You can see what I saw but you didn’t want to.


    You all wanted a clear story to come out of the fight where either the daft tinker got destroyed or the crude puncher got schooled. The ref didn’t stop the fight so you can’t pretend that happened, but you can pretend Fury won and was robbed.
     
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    No, you're trying to be a clever try-hard and failing.

    There's always someone who tries to go against the norm because hey theyre 'clever' and, "that's the way I roll, man".

    That's BazookaJ.
     
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    There was no ‘norm’ when I was calling the fight as it happened. I saw this coming by the delusional posts others were making and I also saw Fury was most likely going to get caught. As soon as Fury looked like he was taking legit control he got dropped.
     
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    Not denying america is corrupted (see the Ward-Kovalev fiasco). But let's be serious, Germany is even worse. If wlad had the same amount of succes than Wilder had, he would have gotten the decision. But the big coward barely threw any punches
     
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    Regardless of what you think the result should be, Fury's success is an example of why rhythm, or indeed the lack of it, is one of the most crucial and overlooked aspects of boxing.

    I remember a young Floyd talking about how most boxers fight in a rhythm, and he tries not to, constantly switching it up throughout a round, to keep the opponent guessing and reluctant to throw. Duran and Lomachenko were/are great at establishing a rhythm and then suddenly breaking it to lull an opponent in and catch them out.

    Fury's jittery style is along the same lines as Floyd, opponents don't throw because he's constantly on the move, always feinting, you just can't get a read on him. It doesn't look pretty, admittedly, but it's clever stuff.
     
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