Not bad for an old man

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  1. Xplosive

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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Leonard at 62 has better handspeed than Kiryl Relikh.
     
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    Yeah Leonard clearly takes good care of himself. Doesn’t look to have aged much either.

    Still don’t care for him as a commentator, but he’ll always be one of my favorite fighters of all time. Guy was an artist at dissecting and breaking down an opponent round by round.
     
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    Hated the guy, still hate the guy... he's got the same fake, manipulative, nasty personality as Isiah Thomas - I'm no basketball expert but when I watched the 30 for 30 about the 80s Pistons, I was struck by how much Thomas reminded me of Leonard; that same surface charm blurring the picture of a ruthless character ... he was a fantastic boxer and fighter but a disingenuous prick that liked to play with loaded dice at the negotiating table.
     
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    Haven't seen that doc but Isiah always rubbed me the wrong way as well. For a so called "bad boy" he seemed more like a snake than a genuine hard man.
     
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    Sport-for-sport you cant really compare the two.

    Leonard is MILES greater than Isiah.

    A consensus top 5-10 all time boxer versus Thomas, who isnt even top 20 all time in NBA history.
     
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    Thomas is a legitimate snake and you wont find too many old timers who like him. He's an asshole and a back stabber, point blank.

    Leonard? Can he really be described as a snake?

    It's well known by now that Leonard was beating Juanita's ass. And not to defend that behavior at all, but he was a raging alcoholic and coke head at the time he was beating her. It's possible that the combination of the two was turning him into a monster.

    Since laying off the booze and coke, we've never heard of any stories of domestic abuse on his current wife, Bernadette, who he's married to since the 90s.
     
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    I wasn't doing that

    FUCK
     
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    Domestic abuse? Not even relevant to what I'm talking about

    I'm talking about being a nasty, manipulative character always looking for a way to grease the wheels in your favor while playing "the good guy"
     
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    So are you saying Leonard couldn't fight? Is that what you mean?
     
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    Oh so Isaiah Thomas was a better boxer than Ray Leonard was a basketball player??? Typical socialism
     
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    I think what's clear in your message is that you have no respect for yourself or your country.
     
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    Isiah Thomas goddammit!

    Isaiah Thomas was/is ALSO an NBA player, but a much lesser one than ISIAH Thomas.
     
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    The Way Leonard Did Donald Curry was the Ultimate in Snake Like Behavior...

    Like Most Others, Curry IDOLIZED Leonard...After Waxing McCrory and Struggling to Make '47, Curry was Top 3 Pound for Pound at Worst and a Mega Fight w/Hagler was Being Floated...

    Curry Sought "Advice" from Leonard, who Set Up a Meeting w/Curry and his Guy, Mike Trainer...Trainer "Advised" Curry to REMAIN @ '47, Where He Lost his Very Next Fight to Honeyghan and was NEVER the Same...w/Curry Safely OUT of the Picture, Leonard Waited for the Proper Level of Vulnerability in Hagler, then Jumped on the Fight...

    Say What You Will about Curry's Sexuality, He's a Soft Spoken, SENSITIVE Dude...Being CONNED By his Idol, After Having His Olympic Dream RIPPED from Him in '80, Are Things that STILL Hurt Dude to this Very Day...






    REED:cool:
     
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    So Leonard was robbed vs Camacho?
     
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    Who can keep up with these biblically named blecks?
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Yep...

    There's SOMETHING to Be Said for a Prick Like Donald Trump...@ Least He's a Prick ALL the Time, Not Just On/Off Camera or Around Certain People...He's ALWAYS a Prick...

    Dudes Like Leonard/Thomas Are JUST as Prickly, But They Insist on the Pretense of Being "Good Dudes"...






    REED:cool:
     
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    Exactly
     
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    DLH is similar but he's more of a pathetic, insecure character
     
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    That's a bad analogy, REED.

    Trump is waayyyyyyyy past "prick." He's an extremely evil man and a sociopath.
     
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    I think he just means that Trump essentially flaunts his lack of scruples and virtue as if it were somehow admirable whereas those two guys pretend they are really nice guys
     
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    I've heard some stories about Trump before he was president saying he was surprisingly nice and was actually interested in hearing what people had to say. Not sure if those were rare experiences or not. I do think it's possible that Trump is the kind of a guy who turns up the asshole dial when on camera, whereas guys like Thomas and Leonard are the opposite.

    Either way they're all assholes even it's at different levels or for different reasons.
     
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    Seems more like excuses by Curry than Leonard actually conning him
     
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    So you're saying you could beat Ray Leonard in his prime?
     
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    REED:cool:
     
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    But....crushed Hearns, crushed Durán, crushed Hagler..
     

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