Haye hasn't fought since July, 2012, due to injuries and Joshua is on a real high with 14 KO's from 14 fights, but is still very much untested. His chin has not yet been checked and we don't know what his stamina is like. He's been taking out the trash in spectacular fashion. Let's say Haye has one comeback fight, winning by knockout early doors, then takes on Joshua. How would you see their fight unfolding? Who would you favour? What's the likeliest outcome?
How do they fare, speed-wise? A lot of people used to say Haye was blindingly quick....but he wasn't - he gave the impression he was quick.
Nah, Haye had legit speed in that right cross as a single shot. His combination punching wasn't much but his single shot speed was legit. I don't know anywhere near enough about Joshua to make a pick here. MTF
Too many questions about Joshua that need to be answered still. The primary one being whether he can take a shot. Until that's been cleared up its impossible to gauge how he'd do against a guy like Haye who obviously packs a fair dig.
Yeah, right now I'd pick Haye since he is much more the proven guy whereas there are plenty of questions to be answered about Joshua. But one day Joshua could be the greatest heavyweight ever in face-to-face matchups
I uttered those words when Joshua had never been past three rounds nor shown any weakness. Of course, making such prediction is always a long shot
I cannot think of a greater weakness than never having been past 3 rounds. Who knows what fallibility lurks in the other 9 rounds, waiting to reveal itself.
Joshua was hurt badly in the 5th and 6th vs Wlad and boxed better in the 7th of that fight than he did in the 4th and 5th of his fight with Ruiz. He has regressed technically since that fight 2 years ago. Hard to believe but it's true. He's gotten so much tighter.
Not sure about that wlad didn't pressure him, That's why he was able to get more composed. The fat little blimp, on the contrary, never stopped coming at him
AJ must have slipped whilst pondering why Wlad wasn't pressuring him. AJ was leaping under and beyond Wlad's lead left hooks..........he can see stuff from mid-range. seems totally blind in the close-range exchanges.
Sure, but had Joshua gone ten rounds with Kevin Johnson (as most have done) instead of blasting him out in three, I wouldn't have considered him more proven. Of course it is a huge shot in the dark to make such prediction without any evidence, anybody knows that. Then again, we had very little if any evidence of how George Foreman would do in long fights, before he faced Frazier. Picking him wouldn't have been plausible, yet it would have been correct
It's why I liked Fury, he was doing 12 rounds vs Chisora back in mid 2011. You could see a lot in that he could resist pressure against a fresh bullish opponent. Fury was being forced to give ground and defend with his back to the ropes. It was a good test because a year later Vitali had a few problems with Chisora and had to fight him the same way. It's Neddy Hernz fault that Joshua was fighting these bowl-overs.
Joshua needed stuff like this:- Look how much more comfortable and in control Fury seems even when shipping shots, he's competent, knows how to fire back. It's ironic.....by the time Joshua was "Coming of Age", around 2016, 2017, that fight with Chisora was there, a shopworn Chisora, who could have acted like an immunisation for Joshua, dangerous but not so dangerous. They never took it or looked for it.
So now wlad was pressuring AJ after the KD Having a discussion concerning the klitshcko with you is beyond futile. You're so ensnared by them that you lose all objectivity
Wlad came forward for large parts of the fight. It's why he did as well as he did. He made AJ work, and AJ seemed to have some idea how to box. In the meantime, he seems to have forgotten.
F no Wlad deserves credit for fighting back hard after he got floored the first time, but as we say in french, chassez le naturel et il revient au galop (when what is natural is driven off, it returns at a gallop). Once he floored AJ, he was happy to only peck at him with the jab. Which is why AJ vas able to get his composure back and eventually win the fight (even Wlad said so in his post fight interwiew). Bibendum, for his part, never let him get his groove back
I think Wlad somewhat pushed for the stoppage but in his own scared way. He fought aggressively for HIM. But yeah as far as going all out for a stoppage, that ain’t Wlad. It’s just not in his nature or mental make up. He has one gear. That’s it.
