Got beaten up and stopped this weekend by Michael Zerafa, who had previously lost to Kell Brook. Good riddance, Horn. You fucking bum. Him and his bum ass trainer Rushton are both arrogant, excuse makers. Go back to teaching, wanker.
Traditionally, guys with limited talented are pretty humble. Horn is an outlier cause he's a guy with zero talent who's delusional enough to think he's Ray Leonard or something. Good riddance to him and Rushton. Hope we never hear from those cunts again.
Shane will once again be a disappointed man in two months when Prograis wrecks his pride and joy Taylor.
Horn's entire style was based on being bigger and stronger that the other guy, roughousing, elbows, wearing guys down.....basically, crap. So his team decides..... to move up 2 divisions to middleweight where he's small, weak and slow, as well as crap. Top move.
We woulda never even heard of horn if the 3 time champ was slightly younger when they fought, as he had horn all but out and couldnt quite finish him
I never knew anything about this Horn guy, cared a jot about him or anything he said and did. I can't think of a less significant fighter out there to have riled a poster up so badly recently. He's an Australian, he's got a fat mouth, he's totally irrelevant, ignore him.
In fairness Horn was an overachiever, he only picked up the gloves 10 yrs ago and in his first few pro fights was bowling much more fancied guys over. After he was 5-0 I recall stating on an Australian forum that he was tough, but garbage, his defence porous and that he was with a karate guy as a trainer and needed to head Stateside to get some real training, stat. In fairness I say this about all Australian boxers, but Horn was beating much more fancied guys and had a good natural eye. Of course, since then he fights EXACTLY THE SAME as he did at 5-0. He was gifted that win over Pac, got lucky and made enough coin to get out of that asbestos shack and 1980 Toyota Camry, so good on him. But the lesson remains, boxers here need to leave the country to maximise their potential. Like Robbie Peden, who would have been beltless without heading Stateside, testing himself and learning some tricks.
What changed about Aussies? How were guys like Lionel Rose, and Johnny Famechon so skilled, and today's crop are so devoid of any skill?
TV and the Internet and "Coaches" and "Gurus" everywhere. Same as in England, people like Shane McGuigan and the clowns training Chisora and Yarde being touted as coaches.
I dont have extensive knowledge on Shane's training tactics, but because who his father is, at least he has more exposure/insight into the sport than Glenn fucking Rushton. Do you think that McGuigan's training will get Taylor past Prograis?
McGuigan is a sham. Remember, he was training David Haye to beat up Tony Bellew. It never happened. Twice. He couldn't train a dog to sit, or lick its balls for that matter. He's a vain spoiled twat. I know a kid who boxes on these amateur cards who sparred with George Groves in West London and McGuigan was always there and one day he was talking about it and the two of us just said in unison "That guys a knob head".........he had the coaches announced at the Loma vs Campbell fight- something I have never seen before- just so he could get his own name mentioned. Then he got caught out after the fight saying "Oh we did really well...........I mean Luke did really well". Nah that fucking lad couldn't train a cat to drink cream. Believe me, the McGuigans are seriously unintelligent people. I mean his dad agreed to fight a fucking Mexindian in Texas in the Summer. His dad comes from a place that has 4 hours of sunshine per year.
In the IMMEDIATE Pac Aftermath, Horn Seemed Like a GENUINELY Nice Guy, an Aw'Shucks Dude Who Hit the Lottery...Was Hard NOT to Appreciate His Journey and the Ensuing Victory Lap... But Yeah, Something CHANGED for Sure...He Became UNJUSTIFIABLY Confident, ENTITLED And His Team Quickly Made Horn One of THE More Unlikable Fighters of Today... The Bud Beatdown SHOULD Have, Yet Didn't Humble Horn or his Handlers @ All...Which Made This Recent Fight All the MORE Satisfying to Watch... Fame/Money CHANGES People, Usually for the WORSE...Another School of Thought Is Bad People Were ALWAYS Bad People; Fame/Money Merely Shined LIGHT on Their Less Than Glowing Character... REED
Quality of training, quality of talent and quality of opposition. Johnny Famechon was trained by a guy called Ambrose Palmer, who happened to box himself and was world rated. Palmer was relentless about the jab - he used to get his guys to spar literally with the right hand tied behind their back, while ther opponent was 2 handed. Palmer was also relentless about hip fluidity for defense, and used to train core strength before it was fashionable. Ahead of his time. Rose was more of a natural talent ala RJJ, the kid could just fight, went pro at 16. As for opposition, that's where we really fall down - there might only be 200 or so registered pro boxers in this country, so it;s a limited sparring pool in particular. Most of our "international" opponents brought in here for our boys to feast upon tend to be Thai taxi drivers of Fijian farmers. So the way to go in the modern era is - get a few wins against easy opponents, fight a "ranked" Fijian farmer or Thai taxi driver for a WBC Oceania or WBA Pan-Asia or whatever and get a top 15 world ranking, then feast on a few more bums, get a world title shot and cash in then retire, or get some home cooking like Horn and see how far you can go (not very far). The above is the unfortunate story of the vast majority of modern Australian boxers.
Here's Famechon at his best, btw. A million times better than any Aussie on the scene in recent years. And yes, the jab was key weapon.
Famechon was all Ambrose Palmer - in fact check out Palmer fight a huge American bloke - same style, just perfected in Famechon.
Also note how Palmer and subsequently Famechon held their hands - unusual placement of the right hand, on the left side of the chin, using the right glove and forearm as defense against straight right blows and requiring a quick readjustment for left hooks. Unusual but effective. Palmer also trained Rocky Mattioli early on in his careeer in Australia before he turned pro I think.
Rose beat the living shit outta Mattioli. Beautiful clinic to watch really. Rose was quite a talent. It took an ATG like Olivares to take him out.
Ahh that was Rocky Gattelari who he beat the shit out of, not Mattioli who was a fair bit better than Gattelari (and a whole lot bigger) and held a WBC strap. Palmer trained Mattioli only briefly in Australia before he went back to Italy Those were the glory days. Boxing all over the cities back then, in halls, pubs and clubs and on free to air TV on Friday nights watching Famechon, Rose, Mundine and others go around at night, and they'd work their day jobs during the day. Now it's a bunch of pretty boys and smacktalkers terrified of defeat fighting on the fucking internet and earning zillions for acting like cunts.
Fuckin Italians all sound the same! But yeah, Rose's performance against Gatteleri was a masterclass.
Horn remains the "aww shucks" teacher in real life, that's who he is. And Rushton, he's rich as fuck and doesn't want adverse attention to his hedge fund game. But after getting gifted the Pac win it's game on, and promoters don't like boring aww shucks guys or Mr Miyagi coaches they like smacktalking scumbags.
