Wilder v Fury II

Is a fighter singing to the crowd like that a first?

 

Agreed, you could see the blood was inside the ear after the first knockdown. Fucks you up.

 

Excellent performance by Fury. 6'9 guy is never gonna look like Sugar Ray Leonard but he is fucking difficult to beat.

As for Wilder, the busted eardrum clearly ruined the rest of his fight. Fury made him look like a bum, but he is not

 

He wore him down, not the most unique tactical choice

 

Fury is still an overrated piece of shit that is just lucky that today there isn't anyone out there good enough like Tyson, Holyfield or Lewis.

 

Yeah Fury’s punches did real damage tonight. It looked like EVERYTHING he landed hurt Wilder bad.

 

He’s no bum but he is little more than a big, tough athlete that punches hard. His lack of skills were hard to expose against his other advantages but Fury being bigger, longer and just as tough nullified it.

 

You could say that about the entire division for the last several years.

 

Sure, but he punches EXTREMELY hard

 

True. I would have loved to see him against a prime Wlad.

 

Fury at 273 surprised me. He was still quick but his punches packed some power this time around. He was hurting Wilder throughout the fight.

Wilder is ineffective backing up. I would give AJ a pretty good chance against him but that’s if he doesn’t gas out.

 

So as we all know Fury-Joshua ends up with Fury trying to bomb Joshua out who will fight with the hippity hop style

 

Watched the 3rd round again. Anyone saying Fury can't box should watch that again, that was masterful performance. After that Fury mauled him in a more ugly, old Hopkins-esque manner

 

Yes. I was thinking Wilder points and Fury by KO were the picks of the odds we saw.
However, Fury by KO went out the window when he weighed so much and refused to take off his shirt.
As it turned out, I thought he carried the weight well and looked just fine.

 

Good call.

 

It was. The 10th bomb Fury landed was wilder than the 9th.

 

Course it was.

 

Ugly fight. Awkward fight. Clumsy fight. Never a great fight and would not have saved the fight game if the fight game needed saving, which it does not.

Fury cannot go forward, it's not his thing, he finds it hard as he is too gangly. Fury is a natural counter puncher a man who likes to respond to pressure.

Wilder cannot go backward. He doesn't have the acumen and his legs are so weak he can't set himself off the back foot to generate the snap. It's a major technical and physical flaw for a man so touted as a puncher. Vitali had a check hook that would knock the spots off a leopard. Lewis had the uppercut for guys coming in. So did Foreman. Wilder, the "hardest hitter of all time"...............has no defensive power.

So once Fury went into him and Wilder could only backpedal, that was the beginnings of an awkward cumbersome affair.

Wilders eardrum was damaged early by one of Fury's "Hooks", basically a giant gloved slap to the side of the head. That's where the balance issues came in.

But Fury was on him like white on rice. Fury KNEW he wasn't 100% the last time and that he was much better this time.

As I said, Fury was just fine at that weight. His body comp has changed for the better since the last fight. He only needs to stay active. As Blowjob Saunders said, when Fury stops, he's fucked. He's like Johnny Tapia. Keep him on a short lead, keep him active.

Wilder was at a distinct physical disadvantage and he's LUCKY he packed on 15lbs somewhere., or that shit would have been over in the first.

Bottom line is this............a dilettante like Wilder, albeit a supremely powerful and athletic one, is no match for a legit 6'9" 280lb guy who has been at this business ALL. HIS. LIFE.

These guys are B+ heavyweights. At best. Wilder is NOT a banger in the true sense and Fury is no master boxer. This is no glory era. Let's be straight. The story here, if there is one, is how a dilettante beanpole stuck at the sport for the love of his daughter, and how another man used the sport to rescue himself from a pit of depression......and could have laid on the canvas. Wilder, to his credit, could have skipped dodge after the last fight and said he'd nothing to prove.


Wilder didn't do that and maybe tonight he is sorry he did not. But the sport will remember him better for it.

But that's it. These are no legends.

Fury is now top dog and I am not so sure where he goes next.

 

BIG. DOSSERS.

 

I watched the fight at a Hooters where I couldn't hear the commentary.
Saw the bloody ear, but didn't know it meant blown ear drum.
What I saw seemed like Fury might have had a superb game plan using his weight and size to wear Wilder out when in close and using his awkwardness and braveness to attack when not in close.
I also thought Fury might be giving Wilder his best chance by engaging, but it sure worked. Wilder was stuck going backwards, getting trapped against the ropes and in corners and Fury just did his thing.

 

He's being punched in the head by a man with a 50lb advantage that knows how to use it.........his eardrum came apart and he had no legs thereafter, but let's face it.......Fury went to him like he said he would and Wilder had absolutely no answer for somebody who put HIM on the back foot.

 

The blood was coming out of the ear, not from the fleshy appendage itself. Definitely internal damage.

Wilder has no backfoot game plan. Fury was walking into him with lead rights to the body.

Fury also fought dirty and roughed him up but protect yourself at all times.

Bayliss did a shit and a good job in equal measure.

 

Sometimes they seem to be speaking to us but really they are speaking to themselves. He's trying to internalize and compartmentalize what just happened. It's a defence mechanism.

Wilder has very little to be ashamed of. He was totally outgunned by a guy who is just returning to his full power.

Wilder needs to accept he's had a good run and probably still beats anyone he can hit with his feet planted.

But he's not beating Joshua now. Not saying he can't, it just shouldn't be on his radar.

Expect Noddy and Mandingo to stay hidden for a while.

 

Is he? He's what? 12% body fat? He's a massive rawboned man with skills beyond his appearance. It's like saying you got shot by a guy whose Glock had chewing gum on it.

He's carrying body fat, but he's so massive and relaxed he can afford to.

I've often had more energy working fat but relaxed than I have working slim but tensed.

 

Wilder vs Lewis would have been hilarious

 

He wasn't fighting a man who was 6 months removed from a diabetic coma.

It's ironic........we may look back on the 12th round of their first fight as the one that got away for Wilder. He ends Fury there and then in the 12th and we aren't having this conversation.



ALSO LOL at this forum and it's "He's fat, he's here for a cheque" etc.

Fury's skin was clear. His arms had no fat on them. He was in great form. When he pushed Wilder at the weigh in Wilder went flying back.

 

Lewis would have got his head kicked in until he landed something big.

The fight Fury can be glad he never had to take was Vitali.........a big cunt just as awkward and twice as mean.