Alan Minter died

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  1. Dog Jones

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    Minter was a quality technician. Unlucky to take on Hagler at the apex of Marv's abilities.
     
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    Minter was unfortunately remembered for a fake news yarn that is often retold and is a calumny of the highest order against the man.

    Talented Chris Finegan met Marvin Hagler in the late 1970's and attempted to shake his hand only to be told "I don't touch White flesh".

    Haglers own people went on the record as that Marvin had problems with White people {The Petronelli's went on the record in this regard}

    So when Minter heard this he said he wouldn't "Shake that Black mans hand".

    And he didn't.

    This got the attention of the NF mongs who went down to Wembley and rioted when Hagler won. Minter had nothing to do with them.

    Shocking how fast Minters career went down the pisser after the Hagler fight. Sibson- a fat talentless knacker- beat him.
     
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    Sibson was a devastating puncher with fast hands. Hardly talentless.

    Sibson was essentially a much better Lemoo.
     
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    He was a bit talented, and being better than Lemoo {Which he was} doesn't mean much. Saunders is better than Lemoo and Saunders is no Sibson.

    I just find it hard to root for these short fatties that always seem to lose their biggest fights, even if their biggest fights were Hagler, Andries, Tate etc.

    Shows you how good the Finnegans really were, which tells you how good Foster and Hagler really were.

    I saw Anthony Yarde fight again tonight. I think Sibson vs Yarde would be a lot of fun.
     
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    LOL who is that referee it looks like Rudy Battle who had obviously concluded that John Collins Life Didn't Matter :Jest:

     
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    IN fairness I apologize for what I said about Sibson. He only lost to the very best, and they might have been the very very best of all time. Just a bit easy to hit and a bit short. But yes, fast, reminds me a bit of Ricky Hatton just a bit wilder and more powerful.
     
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    This is a British Middleweight Title fight. 1979, a few miles down the road from where I am living now.

    These guys probably earned a fraction of what DeFale and Euturd and others earned today.

    Fack all.

     
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    Minter. Dogshit.

    A Laaaahhhhndhan caricature who we (yes, we because we were there and knew about this shit, way before Irish-McIrish), laughed at when Marvellous Marvin splattered this racist punk all over Wembey Empire Pool.

    ´Miiin-tahhh! Miiin-tahhh! Miiin-tahhh!

    I can just see Irish there, now, ready to throw his 50p piece and Harp Lager bottle at Harry Carpenter....
     
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    What Minter & Sibson have in common... probably Hagler's two best performances.

    Hagler's jab was an absolute piston in the Sibson fight.

    Boy I would love to see that version of Hagler get ahold of the Ginger fraud.
     
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    Starting to think you are some sort of a mixum gatherim .............Errol "Spastic Lad" Christie........."I put the Black in the Union Jack then I got beat up".
     
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    To have an arm like that.........I often turn southpaw in front of the bag and try to throw lead rights like that, it's basically the same as trying to write with your opposite hand.

    The annoying thing is I can throw my left off my lead right from the southpaw stance with no effort or telegraph, and I can jab with the left from ortho pretty handy.

    Hagler just had that rare gift and it was designed for face-first fatties like Sibbo.
     
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    Meanwhile in England last night..............watch to the end. Utter joke.




     
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    Minter leaves legacy filled with blood, guts, racism, death and denial

    Hagler was ignored and Minter met Antuofermo in an immediate rematch three months later at Wembley. It was not a night for the feint-hearted and Vito lost so much blood that everybody at ringside was splattered. It was called off at the end of the eighth round. Harry Carpenter, behind the microphone for the BBC, had wondered as Vito bled “where is the humanity in letting a man continue with cuts like that?” And then it was the Hagler fight - the riot and the lasting shame.

    Before the fight in September 1980 the press frenzy was predictable; Minter’s friend and foe, Kevin Finnegan, insisted Hagler had refused to shake his hand when they had fought. Finnegan said that Hagler told him: “I don’t touch white flesh.” Hagler has always denied the claim. “I never shook any colour of hand before a fight!” he told me a year ago in Glasgow. He shook my hand as proof.

    Minter, meanwhile, gave a bad interview and talked about not losing to “that black man.” It was clumsy at best. The fight was truly savage, Minter was cut in the first, second and third. It was over in the third, Minter’s world title was gone and then three seconds after it was called off the first of a thousand bottles landed in the ring.

    There was “the rancid smell of racism” in the air insisted Carpenter {FAG}. That is not a shock. The riot that followed meant Hagler had to flee under a canopy of raised policeman’s arms, urgent cover for the new champion. Hagler is now rightly considered one of the sport’s finest.

    The pair made peace in their long retirements. Minter battled other demons once he stopped fighting. Peace was often elusive for Alan.

    Minter fought three more times and retired exhausted a year later - he had just turned 30 but he had nothing left to offer. He had made all of his boxing sacrifices in his 49 fights - he was 69 when he died last week. He is a British great.
     
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    Funny that Minter is alleged to have said "Sure there have been deaths and injuries in boxing- but none of them serious" .............. when he was the other party the night Jacopucci died.

    Minter said he wanted to be a champ so Jacopucci's kids could say their dad lost to a Champ.

    Brutal era the 1970's. Minter fought a guy after the same guy had stopped him on cuts. 3 week gap between the fights. No way those cuts had healed. None.

     
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    Terry Marsh. A guy who might have beaten both Khan and Hatton and given Floyd a better fight than either.

     
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    That fight was uploaded by yours truly.

    Youre welcome.
     
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    Wow! Well done! How do you do an upload? If something is on videotape, how is it done? Seems a load of work!
     
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    Marsh was a properly ATYPICAL boxer for that era or for any era. He allegedly shot Frank Warren...........sued Frank Waren..............played Chess.......then changed his name to "None of the Above" and ran for election with that name.
     
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    If it's on video you would need a VHS/DVD converter before you could upload it.

    In the case of the Marsh-Manley fight, I just bought the DVD then uploaded it to YouTube - uploading to YT is extremely simple.
     
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    Marsh was solid, but I'm not sure he'd have beaten Hatton. I kind of doubt it, and so does he.

    I was reading an interview where Marsh was asked, "How do you think you'd fare against Ricky Hatton?" and he replied, "Not well."

    As for giving Floyd a tougher fight than Hatton, I gotta disagree there also. I think Floyd would have wiped his ass with Marsh.

    Marsh didn't have the footspeed of Hatton to quickly close the distance on Floyd, and he didn't have the pop to bother Floyd at all.

    If Marsh was at 140 today, I think he'd be top 5, but I reckon both Taylor and Prograis would beat him.

    Marsh-Ramirez would be a good fight.
     
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    From any source on a PC, eg memory stick etc, yeah sure.

    But getting it from tape to internet.......and keeping the quality- sounds hard.
     
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    When I say better fight I mean not having his head smashed into the ringpost after 8 fairly 1 sided rounds. I just can't see him getting lit up like Ricky.
     
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    I'm sure it is. Which is why I haven't done so yet lol.

    All the fights I've uploaded came from DVDs I bought.

    I haven't converted any of my old VHS tapes. No need, virtually everything is on YouTube.

    The fights I like watching that I haven't noticed on YT, I uploaded.

    About 30 minutes ago I uploaded an Vincente Saldivar fight. Worth watching - he was a great technician.

     
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    I guess we'll never know.

    What I do know is that once Marsh retired, Buddy McGirt picked up his vacated belt.

    I think McGirt would have pretty clearly outclassed Marsh had they met.
     

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