Getting a bit annoyed with Spence

Spence is my boy, but no fighter is above criticism. Says that Crawford has to accept as high as a 70/30 split to make the fight happen, and that he can just go to 160 to fight Canelo.

I think EJ is overrating how big his star power is on both fronts.

1. You are not getting the biggest star in the sport to drop down to 160 for you. Canelo is staying right at 168, and if Spence wanted to make the fight happen, he would have to acquiesce to every Canelo demand - including weight. Canelo is not gonna deplete himself by dropping back to 160 and give Spence his best chance at an upset. Spence would have to move up to 168.

2. While Spence is a bigger mainstream name than Bud, its not by much. Certainly doesn't justify demanding no 70-30 split. Thats utterly ridiculous. Both yall need to stop bullshittin and stop being greedy. Let's do 50-50 and make this goddamn fight happen already.

I'm not liking the diva Spence is becoming.

 

I hate Floyd for creating the A-side culture.

There is no A-side between Spence and Bud right now. Wanna be the A-side? Do it the old fashioned way - win the fucking fight. Then you can be A-side in the rematch.

 

Not floyd that created this. Existed for pretty much all of boxing history. For example, RJ was doing the same with the 60/40 to bhops

But yeah, asking for 70/30 is ridiculous

 

X, I think you're right about making this fight RIGHT NOW! Too many times I've seen a possible superfight get blown out of the water by 2 Divas farting around over language and monies on a contract and they blow it by losing to a nobody. When Spence fought Kell Brook I was unimpressed. I did like him against Petersen but Ocampo was nothing. But I became a believer in the Mikey Garcia fight. I have gone back to unimpressed in the Porter and Danny Garcia fights. Maybe unimpressed is a strong word. Let's say I believe he has plateaued. I think he took way too many punches in those fights to go any further in the stratosphere. I agree this fight needs to be made now before this fight is lost. As we know, in boxing, anything can happen.

 

Jones was 100% justified demanding 60/40. He had already beaten Hopkins, for one.

Two, he was a bonafide mainstream star. Hopkins was a nobody to casuals.

 

After the tito fight he no longer was a nobody. Roy had some good reason to demand a 60/40, but it was disappointing that the fight didn't come through cause of that. I wonder why there is not more fights where the purse percentage is determined by winning. Might solve some of these issues

 

I've always wondered this too. I guess perhaps the risk of a freak cut or injury, or a robbery on the cards puts people off.

 

I think Floyd, as great a fighter as he undoubtedly was, has had a detrimental effect on the sport as a whole. The aforementioned 'A-side' shit, the obsession with the 0, the "waiting until the time is right" (AKA when a fighter is over the hill) stuff he's advising his own fighters to do now, it's a shame.

 

70/30 is Absurd, but Spence SHOULD Get the Bigger Slice of the Pie...

Spence's Live Gate, Peak Viewership and PPV Numbers are All HIGHER Than Crawford's...Why Should Spence Entertain a 50/50 Split w/a Fighter Whose OWN PROMOTER Is Tired of LOSING Money On Him???...





REED

 

Id rather see spence or Crawford face ennis at this point. They've danced around the matchup long enough. Lets see one or both get knocked off by a younger, hungrier talent

 

We need to see Ennis in with some of the top guys first.

Can be beat Bud and Spence? Its damn sure possible.

But Van Herden won't prepare him for Spence/Bud.

 

For the sake of legacy is the answer.

Even at 50-50, both these cats are gonna make millions.

But neither side is willing to accept the lesser piece of the pie.

I've given up. This fight isn't happening.

 

Ridiculous.

In a way i hope he gets the Canelo fight. Gives in to every single demand, and then gets destroyed. Comes back to welter and then Crawford tells him it's now 90/10 because Spence "have loss". Take it or leave it.

 

He'll definitely get knocked by Ginger at 168.

Hes not a super big guy like people hype. He would cap out at 154. He's too small for 160, let alone 68.

He doesn't have a Tommy Hearns frame to support 168.

Leonard was able to move up and do it, but with all due respect to Spence, he's not a Leonard-level talent.

 

Not interested at all in a canelo spence match. Pretty sure it would be a mismatch

 

Yeah, zero interest in it.

It would not end for Spence.

 

Yeah. Canelo was able to stand in there with GGG. No way Spence can hurt him. He can box, but he's not going to be able to pull off a stick and move all night either. Garbage matchup.

 

Spence could beat Alvarez at 160

 

Only if Canelo has to absolutely kill himself to make the weight. Unsure if that's the case at this point. If it were, it's moot anyway because Alvarez aint doing anything he's "uncomfortable" with.

 

To be honest, i don't think clenelo is interested in that matchup. Never heard.him mentionning it

 

Alvarez knows that matchup is a money maker in Texas once they can get a full gate. He said he'd move to 160 for it because it's a big fight

 

Hopefully he flat out makes a statement that he has zero interest in it. Therefore Spence will have to drop the idea and what he figures is some kind of card he can play in negotiating some nonsense 70/30 to meet Crawford.

 

REED Wants to See the Fight Like Everybody Else & Won't Give Up on the Idea of it Until This Time NEXT Year...If Spence-Crawford HASN'T Transpired by Christmas 2021, It's a WRAP...

That Said, Fans Have to Put Themselves in the Fighter's Shoes Sometimes...Promoters, Networks and Print Media Keep Track of Things Like Ticket Sales, PPV Buys and Peak Views for a REASON; It Indicates a Fighter Value, His WORTH...

No, Spence ISN'T Mainstream, But He's Consistently OUTPERFORMED Crawford in All of the Aforementioned Metrics...

& Let's Not Forget, This is a Young Man Who's LUCKY to Be Alive Right Now...Spence Nearly SQUANDERED the 1 Boxing Career He'll EVER Have, So Why Should he Take 50-50 When He's Worth MORE than That, Head to Head???...He's Got 1 Chance to Get as MUCH as He Can, Because When it's Over it's OVER...

Again, REED'll Be the 1st to Admit 70/30 is ABSURD, But 50-50 Isn't Realistic Either...





REED

 

Agreed that a 60/40 makes the most sense

 

And again, they're both going to make millions of dollars regardless of the exact split. Why does it matter how much more than you're making than somebody else when it's already a shit load? Is his post fight life going to be more comfortable financially based upon the difference in a purse split?

If he's deserving of a larger piece of the pie based upon previous numbers use that when actually negotiating, not spouting out to the public 70/30 bullshit. If he's sending any "message" it's that he doesn't want the fight which is one of the most sought after in the sport.

 

If Given a Choice of $6 Million or $4 Million Dollars are YOU Gonna Be Kind, Benevolent and Take the Lesser Amount Because it's "NOT That Much More"???...

Of Course You're Not...

Money ='s Comfort So YES, Post-Fight Life WILL Be More Comfortable w/a Few More Million in the Account...

REED's Already Pointed Out the Absurdity of a 70/30 Demand...You're Preaching to the Choir...






REED

 

I think Spence and Crawford should fight and hand over their entire combined purse to me. I will then use that money to create jobs.

 

Seems like mustard is off his med. The hell you're trying to accomplish?

 

He's the human equivalent of a pizza cutter. All edge and no point.

 

I'm gonna request to Anthony and Punk that he finally gets booted. Enough is enough.

Enjoy the last of Mustard.