Eddie Perkins vs Kostya Tzysu

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    As far as I know, there is only 2 rounds of Eddie Perkins available to watch and, to me, he looks really good. Over the years, I have heard so much about how good he was, from long time boxing guys that I think highly of. I would really like to see more of him.
    Realistically any opinion I might venture would be a guess or a bias.
     
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    Looks like you're in luck! I watched these two ten rounders today:

     
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    That Rosi fight was a treasure. Watched it as soon as it got posted. He lived up to expectations for me. Even fought pretty similar to what I’d read/what I expected. Rosi has always been very underrated himself.

    Might go ahead and look back over it tonight to come up with a better evaluation.
     
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    That first fight, Perkins is a very solid professional fighter. He didn't take any chances, he didn't take 20 clean punches, and he won that fight with a very educated left hand. I don't think he threw more than a dozen for real right hands in the fight.
     
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    Handicapping Perkins against Tszyu is hard given the limited amount of footage. I dont wanna sell Kostya too short and say that he loses to every last quality fighter in junior welterweight history, because I think he would beat some of them.

    Watching the Rosi performance, there's nothing that really jumped out at me to say Tszyu is overmatched here.

    Again, I dont wanna make the mistake of Tszyu going from overrated to just to picked to lose against everyone.

    With just the Rosi fight to go off of, the eye test would have me placing prime Tszyu as the favorite here.
     
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    Perkins doesn't do any more than he needs to do. In some respects that is the mark of a very professional fighter; don't risk anything.
    But I just watched 20 rounds of a guy that is always very comfortable in the ring and in the fight and I think that he threw a dozen serious right hands in 2 fights. He has a neat little trick of walking a guy into a left hook that he uses. But he doesn't push.
    I'd like to see Perkins in a fight with a guy that makes him fight; neither of these two guys are too good. Rosi is one of those ugly, mauling guys that give you trouble. Based off these two fights, he will have trouble with Tszyu.
     
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    I’d love to see the Napoles fight. Perkins claims he was robbed but I put no stock in his word whatsoever. You oughta read his interviews.
     
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    Just going off what I saw, you'd have a hard time convincing me that he was robbed.

    Napoles was just better.
     
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    All 3 judges scored it 7-0, with Napoles scoring a knockdown in round 6.

    Not entirely sure what a score of 7-0 amounts to in a 10 rounder, but I believe it equates to 6 rounds to Napoles (2 points for the 6th round) and 4 even. Wish Scartissue was here to confirm or deny.
     
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    To beat Tszyu, you really need to be able to capitalize on his lack of an inside game, and I wasn't really seeing any masterful/adept infighting from Perkins in the Rosi fight - maybe I need to rewatch. He was clinching a lot, it seems.

    Thats not the answer against Tszyu - you gotta punish him on the inside, and force him back, where he's not effective.

    Unless you're a boxing genius like a Floyd, Benitez, Whitaker, or Locche.

    And I wasn't seeing that in Perkins.
     
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    Yeah, Tszyu was definitely a boogeyman to the pure boxing types. Southpaws, too. I got into some fierce battles in Whitaker/Tszyu threads back in the day.
     
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    There shouldn't be much debate around that one.

    Tszyu has no chance whatsoever against a prime Whitaker.

    The Whitaker that beat Pineda at 140 would outclass Tszyu by a very wide margin.
     

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