Best guy you take Carl Froch to beat

You're quite a number man . In this very thread I've conceded I was wrong about some stuff and here you are calling me a narcissist because I stand by my opinion on a fight. Good God...

 

The thing is, is that what you think on the matter doesnt really have any bearing. As i said, ton of persons think hopkins edged it and to dismiss their opinions is absurd. It was a hell of a close fight that could have gone either way, depending on what you liked more

 

What anybody think about that fight doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, the record says Calzaghe won that fight. So please, spare me that bs. I don't believe it could have gone either way, that's not a fight I see that way. You disagree? Fair enough, I can live with that.

And BTW, I'm sure there are many fights that supposedly could have gone either way because of press row scoring that you believe are clear for one fighter. Standing by my opinion here isn't some kind of weird take.

 

JOM is advocating for nuance now! I've seen it all!

 

Precisely, what bearing does Hopkins-Calzaghe on how Froch would do vs Calzaghe? As we all know, Froch was very similar to Hopkins in almost every way.

 

I dont mind that you think calz won clearly. What bothers me is that you're trying to pass it as a fact, even though its far from the wifely held opinion.

And your first point is pure bs. Nobody think Holy drew with Lewis the first time around even though the official decision says so

 

Now you're just making shit up. Hill was ranked as the best light heavyweight in the world until he lost to Hearns. He was considered the best outta the Williams/Moorer/Harding crop.

In 1989, he made Ring Mag's inaugural P4P top 10.

Saying he was considered a fraud is a categorical LIE.

 

Thats a good question

 

Youre right fraud was a much too strong term. But he was viewed as very protected

 

Sorry for derailing the thread man, shit happens.

 

You're full of shit man. I'm voicing my opinion. That's it that's all. Deal with it.

 

One thing for.sure
Stevenson would have wrecked Froch

 

You're banned, goddammit!

HIT THE BRICKS, PAL! Cause you.are.going.... OUT!

 

What would be fightbeat without a few thread highjacking once in a while? I mean, that shitter was built on that!

 

That's a case where Froch actually is the better fighter, but Stevenson is all wrong for him.

I struggle to think of many quality light heavyweights I'd pick Froch to beat. There's not many.

 

Yeah man, lighten up Georges. Hijacking thread is a fb cherished tradition.

Harden up young.man

 

I came here because Anthony and Punk asked me to, they asked me for a favor. I told them the real favor, follow my advice, and ban your fuckin ass, because a loser is a loser.

You know what it takes to talk boxing? It takes brass balls to talk boxing.

 

Hey don't apologize to me, I don't give a shit.

Feel free to do what you want.

 

Put that coffee down!

 

Froch had an ugly style but he'd be a tough out for most fighters. I didn't think Hill was as good a X does. I can see a close fight with it going either way. The problem I had with Hill is/was he reached too much with his jab. If he missed he was badly off balance and out of position to defend. As awkward as Froch was, can't imagine him not finding a way to counter that. Plus, Froch had the chin to handle anything Hill caught him with.

I just think Froch was a tad bit better. His ugly style throws you off but damn if he wasn't effective. As much as I couldn't stand his mouth, he fought everyone he was supposed to fight.

 

Coffee is for closers!

 

I don't think Hill would be missing with his jab too often against Froch. It's not like Carl could spell head movement. If George Groves had zero issue finding him with the jab, what you think Virgil Hill's gonna do?

One thing Hill really had going for him, he was VERY good at quickly turning his jab into a hook, and also countering with the hook when guys overcommitted. He had more pop in his left hook than he gets credit for.

I see him countering Froch all night long, and Froch getting stunned to the point where he thinks twice about opening up.

Hill's main weakness was that he wasn't a good infighter. But he gets away with that in this matchup, because Froch couldn't fight on the inside either.

 

Great post. Hill was a guy that was putting all his weight in his jab. That's why he couldn't get much after it.

And groves success are overstated. Je caught an overconfident froch in the first and manage to build a bit on it after that, but froch was clearly coming on even before the controversial stoppage. And Froch beat him handily in the rematch

 

Could Froch beat prime Kov?

 

No

 

I don't think so either, just seeing if opinions had changed.

 

Froch gets fucking dismantled by Kovalev. It'd be a mismatch of epic proportions.