I think Griffith wins a close - but clear and woefully boring - decison. Stoppage at middle is on the cards.
That Griffith was better at just about every other facet of boxing except for power, and had a much deeper resume.
I think Griffith was a lot physically stronger than Tito, and would exploit him on the inside. Tito was murder at midrange, but Griffith was far better in close.
Yeah that is what i would expect from that fight. Groffith smothering tito on the inside. I guess there's a slight chance that tito hurricane his ass, but this was a fluke more than anything, so the probability are really thin
Griffith is the strongest welterweight ever IMO. He literally beat Dick Tiger by employing a strategy involving pushing him back and out-muscling.
I think even if he had the Joppy head-crusher tape, he still wouldn't be able to Rubin Carter Griffith
The potential of Joppy head-crusher tape (the devastation of which doesn't even require it hit the chin or even the head since hitting the guard with it is hurtful to the point the fighter thinks it is a good idea to lower his guard) is relatively unknown given it was only ever unleashed on Joppy. I would not rule out the possibility that even the great Emille Griffin would wither under its force. Devastating was the word Joppy used to describe it. And the whacky punching style Trinidad employed in that fight confirms the presence of a substantial foreign objects.
Not at 147 though, IMO - Tito wasn't really a one-shot KO artist down there. He was more explosive when he moved up to 154, which was his ideal weight IMO.
False. Trinidad had his most violent KOs at 147 - I would call welterwwight his optimal power weight. Having said that, the odds of him blasting Griffith early are very slim. Hurricane Carter was a blazing fast starter. Tito was not.
Against higher level of competition like Campas and Carr, he typically either gradually broke them down over several rounds or made them cave under volumes of punches. Above 147, he was dropping fighters like Vargas and Joppy straightaway in the first round as soon as he began landing cleanly.
Its hard to tell. At 154 he hit Thiam with everything but the kitchen sink and never dropped him, and Thiam was considered chinny in the french boxing circles
Its not possible to generate the power Tito had via a bit of extra guaze. Manny Steward specifically said that one time, and NO trainer was as much an expert on hand wrapping as Manny was. Youre literally one of the last people who continue to spout this ridiculous conspiracy theory. Trinidad had natural power. Please get over it.
I'm not sure. What I do know is post-Luis Resto incidence, it would be pretty damn hard to consistently sneak inserts past multiple commissions over the span of years. Boxing might be corrupt as Hell when it comes to judging, but the glove protocols are pretty air tight, unless you're fighting in some nondescript backroom, which Margarito was not. He was consistently fighting in Vegas. I find it EXTREMELY EXTREMELY hard to believe he was loading his wraps every fight.
Tito was a real puncher for sure.. the wrap thing has gotten silly Tito had that Tommy Hearns type power.. long and lanky/skinny but hit people and they'd be out
I have my doubts on whether Margarito's wraps were ever loaded outside of the Mosley fight. Surely if he's throwing hundreds of punches with Plaster of Paris on his hands, he'd have developed some problems with his hands. I think we'd have heard about it, it'd be pretty hard to keep those things under wraps - pun intended. Without concrete evidence - again, pun intended - I find it hard to believe that Margarito was bypassing all negatives, every time he stepped into the ring - officials never noticed, his hands suffered no ailments and Richardson has a sort of history in making these sort of thing up. The only issue is his supposed lack of power after fighting Mosley. But given he battered three times in a row, and only had like three fights after that - two being losses - I'm inclined to suspend my belief at the results, and chalk that down to him being a spent fighter, rather than him being a disgusting cheat.
I'm skeptical he'd attempt something like this in a high profile fight against Mosley unless he'd successfully pulled it off in the past.
Maybe so, but I feel like that could be applied to each fight we assume he started at, and keep going back until the we get to his really low level fights. Which then becomes a case of him having gotten away with it for years - which I just can't see.
If your wraps are loaded, you'd have to be pretty fucking retarded to remove your gloves right after the fight while you're still in the ring, which is what Marg did after the first Cotto fight. Nazim, Rest his Soul, was an instigator.
