That is unintentionally fucking hilarious. When he starts running around the room after the monkey, that's when you know, yes, Shane is a simple minded lad. Let's just get this right:- We got Eli Seckbach in Shanes "I lost my other house to my wife" place, filming Shane in his socks as he chases a diaper-wearing Monkey around the room. You know what this is really about, right? Shane is being stiffed on custody of the kids so he's figured a way around this:-
I dunno how many kids Shane has outside of Mosley Jr, who's 30, so obviously he can't be used as a custody pawn. I'm sure that fuckin cunt ex-wife of his still takes advantage, but he looks pretty content. His current wife (or gf, i dunno if they married) is sexy as Hell, so Shane did alright for himself.
Shane is without question a really good person. He made some mistakes, like picking the wrong woman and getting caught juicing, but he's genuinely one of the good guys this sport has had. Its not a nice guy facade either. He really is just a sweet, if naive, soul.
Juicing, or getting caught? Like I said he's happier today he doesn't have to do all that shit. Probably had people all his life putting shit in his head "Do this Shane, do that Shane"
My dad was in the CA state commission and met Shane, he said he’s a really nice guy. Nearly every boxer he met was nice though, even disturbed guys like G-Man or reputed assholes like Oscar. They’re generally respectful to commission guys. The only boxer he ever met that was an asshole to him was Lennox Lewis. Oh and he wasn’t there when Floyd fought Chavez in San Francisco. But one of the Baylesses (either Kenny or Kermit) was at the weigh in and he said Floyd and his entourage were “an embarrassment to black people”
Fuck Reed, I’ll take this one: That’s about as racist a statement as it gets. Why does the behavior of Floyd’s entourage get to be some kind of reflection on black people in general? If you see some white rednecks acting an ass at a casino nobody even thinks to say something about how they’re a bad reflection on white people. It’s the same thing with Asians and Latinos. Only with black people are we looked at as some monolith where we’re not deserving of being judged and treated as individual human beings like everyone else. Now carry on with your boxing talk.
Take it up with the President. "You ain't black" etc. You voted for it, you got it. Elections have consequences. I didn't say anything about Floyds entourage, nor did I pass comment on what Kenny Bayliss had to say about Floyds entourage. You're not "Taking" anything , you flailing borderline hysteric
"Don't treat us as a monolith". "You ain't black". Votes Biden. Cries when Bayliss treats him as a monolith, blames Irish. BORDERLINE. HYSTERIC.
You need to relax. Other than the part regarding Reed I wasn’t directing that comment to you, I was just addressing it in general. Also maybe you should try a little self awareness before you try calling someone a flailing borderline hysteric. The guy (you) who’ll cover a whole page in back to back posts only done by him probably shouldn’t be pointing fingers. Finally, you can stop throwing Biden in my face as some kind of criticism. Unlike you I don’t worship any person and particularly not politicians. So when it comes to Biden not only am I not a fan but I didn’t even vote for him. At the same time he’s already come closer to fulfilling some of the promises Trump gassed you guys up with.
OH ok cool sorry I took it up the wrong way. I thought you were saying that I had agreed with what Bayless was saying. Floyd's an arsehole, I don't lump anybody else in with him. Hell even the guys who work for him are just trying to get paid.
I'm watching Mosley-Wright, and in the build up, they showed an interview where they mentioned that Shane took a lie detector test after the outburst. Shane knew nothing of any illegal substances in what BALCO was giving him. It really does just seem like a good guy was caught up in a bad situation.
I don't buy it. Some athletes gets caught with a substance that can be found in an over the counter medication and everybody is highly skeptical it was purely an accident. Now we have a guy working with a laboratory using all manner of substances and not for a moment he though something could be untoward? Yeah Shane might not be Einstein but come on. Maybe they didn't explicitly start out by saying "Hi Mr. Mosley, we're going to help your performance with these illegal steroids." Doesn't really matter. It would be like buying a car stereo really cheap off some guy on the street and claiming you had no idea it was hot afterward. "Well, the guy selling it didn't outright tell me he stole it".
100% agree, no way in hell he didn't know. And in the slight chance he didn't, it was because he was being wilfully ignorant
I remember when Shane Mosley was standing in the corner of the gym watching when he was barely old enough to stand up. On one of my sojourns from the gym I was playing basketball 'in the hood' when a friend of mine from the gym walked by and I asked him if he was the best fighter in the gym yet. He told me that a 9 year old kid was. That 9 year old was Shane Mosley. He put his heart and soul into boxing from Day One. In my estimation that is the root of his success; the years of hard work and dedication that nobody sees and that are resented by those that lack the heart to do the same.
He did know what was in the substances - he's admitted as such numerous times, including in secret grand jury testimony from 2003 that was released years afterward. His "defense" was that he didn't know the ingredients were banned. 'Sugar' Shane Mosley told grand jury of EPO use Boxer "Sugar" Shane Mosley testified in 2003 that he injected himself with the notorious doping agent EPO as he prepared for his light-middleweight title fight against Oscar De La Hoya, according to grand jury transcripts and doping calendars reviewed by the Daily News. The Mosley transcripts are part of a massive BALCO file that was under a protective order from March of 2004 until last week, when U.S District Court Judge Susan Illston vacated the order at the request of prosecutors who are preparing for the March 2 trial of Barry Bonds on perjury charges. In the testimony, recorded on Dec. 11, 2003, at the federal courthouse in San Francisco, Mosley also said that BALCO founder Victor Conte explained in detail how the drug was used and what its effects would be, including the potential harmful effects of the highly-regulated endurance booster. Mosley has admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO, but has denied knowing that the drugs were banned or illegal. When asked if he had gotten EPO from Conte, Mosley replied: "Yes, the hematocrit." "And that's something you actually inject into yourself?" he was asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Nedrow. "I think it's right by your stomach, yes," Mosley said, indicating where the drug is often injected. Conte has said he instructed Mosley on techniques for drawing EPO from a bottle with a syringe and injecting it in each side of the belly button in what is known as "double-saturation" injections. At one point in the questioning, Nedrow produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent cocktail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on Sept. 13, 2003. The calendars denote which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances. Mosley acknowledged that the calendar, marked "S.M.," contained instructions for him, and that the prices scribbled on the margins corresponded with the money he owed Conte for the treatments. (Conte, who estimates Mosley injected himself 20 times on each side of his belly button in the month before the fight, says he drew up the calendar while Mosley watched.) Nedrow then pointed to the letter "E," which appears on the calendars at regular intervals in July and August. "E, are those the injections of the EPO?," Nedrow asked Mosley. "Yes, those would be the days," Mosley answered. Excerpts from his deposition for a later lawsuit against Conte:
Come on Maaaaaaaaaaan. Only Andrew Golota and Ben Johnson took steroids. Our best boxers are playing football. Welterweight Footballers. Do pushups, Fats.
If boxing was properly supervised, yes. Oscar was asked whether he wanted to petition any bodies to overturn the result, but he elected not to because he was in a business partnership with Mosley at the time.
