Tank vs Barrios: Predictions, Discussion, RbR

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  1. Neil

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    after seeing how davis struggled with mediocre barrios i wouldnt favor him over ramirez, prograis, taylor, lopez or any legit 140lbers.
     
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    Ramirez is a clear level below those other three you listed.

    My thoughts on Davis are shifting. I just think he appears easier to beat than he is.

    Lopez, and Taylor are better technicians, but Davis' power might equalize all that if he catches them right... and he seems to catch everyone right eventually.

    As for Regis, listen, Prograis is my boy, we all know I've been high on him for years, but Davis is the more dynamic of the two.

    Regis likes to fight. Maybe he's too strong for Davis and mows him down, or maybe his fighting nature bites him in the ass and Davis clocks him. I would love to see it, either way. Battle of the hot headed lightskinned brothers.

    I maintain that below 147, no one is a lock over Davis.

    Not Taylor. Not Lopez, Not Loma.
     
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    I do rate Davis, he's good and obviously hits hard, has a mean streak about him, I like all that, sure. Saying that, the first thing I always look at in a fighter, when I'm trying to rate them, is how many rounds they give away, basically any boxer who has been truly elite has been a round collector, each one is a mini-fight and they don't like losing them. Davis hasn't been great on that front recently (yes I know the official cards had him way up against Barrios, but we all know what we saw). The power has bailed him out a couple of times now but there will come a time when it doesn't, then what?
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    I would pick Prograis over Tank without hesitation to be honest with you. I think Regis is one of those guys who seems to be respected by everyone yet is still quite underrated, weirdly.
     
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    Davis has been matched well. I like to watch him but he hasn't really beaten anyone worth a damn.

    and has looked mediocre in the process struggling to take out a shot gamboa, losing rounds to a smaller Santa Cruz, and then to a larger but very ordinary Barrios

    He really needs to stay at 130-35
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    The flip side to that coin is that he doesn't get discouraged when he drops rounds.

    Also, unlike Wilder, where you only to have to neutralize one punch, with Davis... he can lay you out with either hand, AND can do so from different angles.

    So he almost has that Naz factor about him.
     
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    We'll just to have to disagree. I don't think anyone is a lock over him below 147.

    I think Lopez, Taylor, and Loma should rightfully be the betting favorites, but if Davis ended up blasting them I wouldn't be at all shocked.
     
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    Id be very surprised if Davis beat Taylor
     
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    I hear what you're saying and he obviously is lightyears ahead of Wilder technically but that is a really bad habit to get into. It is simply inevitable that there will come a fight where the power doesn't bail you out, and like Neil said he hasn't exactly been fighting a murderer's row and is already dropping rounds.
     
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    I don't see why. Josh is no defensive wiz, and Josh's face busts up.

    Josh has been hurt by Prograis and Baranchyk.

    I dunno why it would be shocking if Davis caught him while behind on the cards.
     
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    There's a better chance of Davis upsetting Taylor than there is of Taylor upsetting Crawford.
     
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    Protected or not, his power is undeniable. He's the best pure two handed puncher in the sport.

    I say "pure puncher" because Inoue has flawless skill and technique.
     
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    i dont believe davis is a great puncher above 135. even there his power has looked unimpressive.

    on top of that you can tell they have no intention of putting him in with taylor. ellerbe stated some shit like "there were maybe 70 ppl at davis' fight who know who taylor is"
     
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    We'll see. For the record, I would end up picking Lopez and Taylor to beat him.

    Loma? No, I'll go with Davis in an upset. I expect that most would pick Loma, but my gut tells me that Davis lays Loma out at some point.

    Call Barrios mediocre all you want, but Nakatani, as I said before Saturday, is extremely mediocre himself.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Id like to see him against Taylor. The size disparity would be absurd, but Taylor is not a defensive whizz. He'd get hit and i want to see how he react to tank power
     
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    My point exactly.

    There are no defensive geniuses from 135-140, so how are any of them locks over a guy with power as freakish as Davis's?
     
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    Tank's LOW Punch Output Would Hurt Him vs. Busier Guys Like Taylor and 'Fimo, in REED's Opinion...Tank's an ECONOMICAL Banger, Partly Due to CARDIO...

    The EASY Fix is Improving His Endurance, But it's Rather Clear Tank's Going to Be a James ToneyESQUE Fighter In Terms of Conditioning, Especially Now That He's Reached a Certain Level Purse Wise...Like Toney, Tank's LAZY and UNDISCIPLINED, So His Punch Rate IS What It IS...

    Tank Shouldn't Revisit '40 Until LATER In His Career...& If His Lil' Ass EVER Fights @ '47, He's CASHING OUT...




    REED:duck:
     
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    Funny how he casually slipped Tank in there. I see what he did lol. Im not convinced with Tank. Dont know if its true but i hear Tank wants no part of Josh taylor. His excuse "because Taylor is not a big draw in America". Was Barrios a big draw???
     
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    If Mikey Garcia didnt have the little man syndrome and stayed in his lane(140) he would do quite well. Dont know if he beats Josh Taylor but has a hell of a better shot than woman beater Tank Davis lol.
     
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    Tbh I have to agree with you somewhat Xplosive. I used to think Tank was a joke (for the level he was competing at, not overall obviously) but just being able to keep that explosive power and speed late means he is troublesome, since he is also sneaky with some one shotters and doesn't even have to load up on them, like that sudden liver shot. He's short but not really undersized, just stocky. His problems are just mental energy and focus imo - he could seriously something if he truly, 100% dedicated himself and boxed to his strengths.

    'I just think he appears easier to beat than he is.'

    This is something that was touched on in some other threads about other fighters. Davis could possibly land on 'better' guys precisely because of his perceived 'flaws'. I don't actually pick him to beat any of those guys, but now I'm much more interested to see it, especially at a lower weight.
     

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