Best "recent" canadian boxers

Same thing as the thread i did about the best recent (1960 and upward) british fighters, but this time for canada. Whos the five best and it what order? LL is not eligible (clear nb 1 if he was)

 

Personally, i think the top spot goes to either pascal or stevenson. Pascal has more longevity, and probably beaten better names, but he also has more losses and never looked as.dominant as stevenson. Afterward, id have either gatti or Matthew Hilton. I think Matthew was much better than Gatti, but his career was a bit of a dissapointement. It saddens me to do so, but i would put Gatti at nb 3. As for the last spot, it's imo, either lemieux, lucas, lalonde or Ruddock. Ruddock is the clear choice there.

Stevenson
Pascal
Gatti
M. Hilton
Ruddock


HM: Lemieux, Lalonde, Lucas, Molitor, Berbick, Stiverne, Durelle, Chuvalo, D. Hilton, Alcine

 

Well, Lewis is easily the Canadian GOAT, if he can be considered Canadian.

 

Hilton vs Lemieux would have been one helluva fun war.

 

Thinking about it, its kind of weird that toronto produced an absolute legend (LL), and the very solid Razor Ruddock at the same time. But absolutely nothing worth mentioning beside them.

 

You’re not considering Dave Hilton for a HM?

 

As i said in the opener, not eligible (very discutable), but a) dont want to have the same goat.as.in the uk thread and b) would be such an obvious choice that it would make the discussion boring

 

Yeah he deserves a spot. Dont know why i forgot him. Also added Alcine.

 

Would be fun, but a mismatch. Poor little David is not surviving for long against Matthew

 

Lemieux could beat the washed up Hilton that fought Dewitt - possibly. Probably not.

But yeah, the Hilton that stopped Benitez and Antuofermo would wreck Lemoo.

 

Come on baron, give us your list you slacker

 

To be honest, Hilton was looking good vs DeWitt before the eye injury. Not sure that it's a case of being washed up more than an unlucky break

 

It’s not an easy list to do, I feel no one is head and shoulders above the rest. I like your list honestly, althoughI think Pascal, Stevenson and Gatti are pretty much interchangeable. I'd add Grant as an HM.

And considering Lewis fought for Canada in the Olympics, I think he should qualify. Since he's clearly the number 1, by a wide margin, it doesn't remove the difficulties of ranking the rest...

All Time would be interesting as well since it would add Langford and Burns....

 

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Is George Chuvalo Not Well Regarded in Canada???

Not a “Great” Fighter, Obviously, But REED Would Think He’s Certainly HISTORIC In Canadian Boxing Circles???





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Pretty liberal use of ‘recent’.. going back 60 (!!) years. If it was actual recent, like since 2000 then we’d have Tukunbo Olajide rounding out the top 5 .

 

Molitor absolutely warrants a mention. Came to England and did a job on a fella called Michael Hunter in Hunters hometown.

Hunter looked absolutely made to beat Molitor with his incessant workrate and insane fitness.

Molitor took about 2 rounds to get the measure of him.



Steve Molitor was the fighter that Bute wanted to be.

 

Hes already in the hm. He had a decent streak, but him getting demolished by cabballero disqualifies him from cracking the top 5

 

Molitor is a bit hard to gauge. Was he exposed or was his head not into boxing anymore after his brother, with whom he was close, murdered his gf?? As with everything in life, it's probably a bit of both but which one is the main reason?? Supposedly, everyone was rooting against him because of this in his own hometown.

 

Well, looking on wikipedia, the murder took place in 2002, well before Molitor jumped on the world scene. so exposed it was

 

It's hard to say Molitor was "exposed". Shit happens. He wasn't brilliant, but he was a roadwarrior who went into other peoples towns to fight.

Chuvalo, for me, should top the list.

So what if he never won the title.

Does Stevenson get a sniff in Bob Fosters era? Or Conteh/Muhammad era?

He gets a sniff of the smelling salts, that's what he gets sniff of.

Chuvalo knocked out Quarry, beat Williams. Fought everyone and fought them hard too.

 

Chuvalo was a rather poor boxer. Lost to Cleroux twice who wasnt anything special himself (though supposedly these were.controversial)

Beating Quarry is great, but besides that, he was pretty much a gate keeper (cleveland williams was losing to everyone at that.point). I don't see how you can put him above Ruddock to be honest.

Stevenson would for sure be near the.top of foster era. There wasn't a lot of greats 175 at that time. He doesn't have a chance against Foster, but beside him, hes in the mix.

 

It's easy to look poor when you are fighting the guys Chuvalo was fighting.

 

For sure, it was a cutthroat era. But he got pretty much destroyed and.outclassed by the greats of his era. I don't see him becoming a dominant champ in any era

 

As opposed to Stevenson who basically died in his last fight, against a guy who basically died in his next fight

 

I think Chuvalo and Stevenson are comparable type fighters, both in ability and greatness. I'd rate both over Rudduck and definitely over Pascal and Gatti.

 

How old was stevenson in his last fight?
And Gvozdyk eas doing pretty well against betterbiev before the last two rounds

 

I don't see it. Chuvalo wasnt only losing (badly) to the greats, he was also almost always losing to every decent guy he fought. As said, an upset over quarry is great, but it's not enough to put him above these guys.

And ability wise, he was tough and strong, but thats pretty much it

 

Yeah, not only Stevenson was old but was rather inactive as well. My memory might be failing me but didn't he look bad in his previous fight against Jack? I remember it was a draw but I think I remember feeling Jack did enough to win...

 

Stevenson seems to be on the way down since the williams fight. (Even though he looked great against Fonfara, who was also at the end of the road). He did looked rather bad against jack, especially in the later rounds. At that point, it was pretty obvious that he was running on fumes, and i picked Gvozdyk to beat him