Canelo vs Plant: Final Predictions, Discussion, RbR

Mormeck was a shortish black West African.

Canelo is a ginger Mexican.

Not exactly the same thing mate

 

Where There's Smoke, There's FIRE Bruh...

Clenbuterol is Good for STAMINA, Something Canelo Historically STRUGGLED w/Up Until the RE w/GGG...

Beyond That, Canelo, Oscar Valdez, Luis Nery and Julio Cesar Martinez ALL Got Popped w/PED's in Their System Under Eddy Reynoso's Watch...COINCEDENCE???





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PS I think Roy would be absolute kryptonite for Canelo.

Only version of Roy he beats is the one Tarver had in front of him, and even then it probably needs two attempts.

The guy I'd really love to see Canelo fight:- Gene Fullmer or Dick Tiger.

 

Studies have found that clen has no positive effect on stamina in humans. In fact, they tend to show that it affect stamina negatively

 

Lmao that picture is so photoshopped. Look at the edge of that wall in the background. You're kidding right???

 

I thought it was Viagra, or is that something else?

 

No.

 

LOL have you been pumping Clen and finding you still can't perform in bed but that you can punch out the local bully?

 

Clenbuterol is a drug that is not approved for human use in the U.S. In some countries, it is available by prescription only for people with asthma or other breathing problems. Since 1998, the FDA has allowed clenbuterol for treating horses with asthma. It is not allowed for animals that are used in food production.‌

Clenbuterol is a substance that has steroid-like effects and is classified as a beta2-adrenergic antagonist. This means that it stimulates the beta2-adrenergic receptors in your throat. The medicine helps relax your muscles and lungs, making it easier to breathe if you have asthma or another respiratory condition. It can stay in your body for up to 39 hours after you take it.

Sooooooo a Substance That MAKES IT EASIER TO BREATHE Has "No Positive Effect On Stamina in Humans"???

Okay...






REED

 

To be fair Eddy Reynoso's job or any other head trainer's job is not to give medical or nutritional advice to their fighters. They are only there to provide tactical advice. I'm surprised you blame Eddy I would think you out of all people would know your boxing and what the role of a coach really is. For example Caleb Plant's trainer is Justin Gamber but his sport nutrition coach is Victor Conte founder of Snac. You get the picture right?

 

Store Bought Dick Pills are BETTER...

Or So REED's Heard...




REED

 

Ventilators help people breathe better you think they have a positive affect on stamina too? Lol

 

You're Fan Boying Right Now...

If ANY Other Fighter Failed a PED Test and Had 3 Other Guys IN HIS GYM Fail PED Tests, You'd QUESTION What's Going On In His Camp, and Rightfully So...But Since it's Canelo You've Got BLINDERS On...

Trainers Roles VARY Depending on the Fighter...For Instance, Bud Crawford's Trainer, Bo Mac, Also COOKS for Him...Some Trainers RUN WITH Their Fighters...

To Make a Blanket Statement, Attributing a SINGULAR Role to a Trainer Tells REED You Don't Know YOUR Boxing...





REED

 

How Many World Class Athletes are On Ventilators???...

You Know Why INHALERS Aren't Allowed Ringside??? Because it HELPS Your Stamina...It's Also Why Clenbuterol is Considered a PED...

But By All Means, Continue FAN BOYING...





REED

 

No. Canelo has no chance.

There's zero evidence for Jones having a "glass jaw" in his prime. Toney hit him with a number of solid shots, and nothing happened. I wouldn't say that Canelo has anymore power at 168 than Toney.

Don't let beating a Caleb Plant or BJS fool for you for how Canelo would match up against a prime Jones.

 

Guys like Canelo, and Pacquiao (and likely Hearns and Leonard) who are awesome at low weights and add 20 30 lbs of muscle while retaining stamina and speed are/were likely all on steroids.

Remember Hearns didn't want the rematch with Leonard without a steroid test and publicly said SRL was juicing during retirement before he fought Hagler.

I lived in LV for one year and hung out around several local fighters... a large amount of them use steroids as well, and basically all of the good MMA fighters do. And they rarely fail any tests. They're essentially all microdosing test, taking SARMS, and most everybody in their inner circles know that everybody is using them, so noone complains about it.

The tests are very easy to beat still.

Tyson Fury tested positive for nandrolone for godsakes, and how many of Eddy's fighters are gonna get popped!? There are some natty fighters out there but not many.

 

If they're not using something illegal or finding away to beat a test they're taking something that's not banned yet. It's all loopholes or staying ahead of the curve it seems. Worry about the change in laws when they're introduced. Until then, keep exploiting them.

At the top level i doubt there's many getting by on only hard work and a "healthy diet".

 

This...

REED's Fighbeat Posting History Reveals Him to be a FAN of Canelo Alvarez, All Things Considered...Some Here Attempted to BURY Canelo After the Floyd Loss, but REED GUARANTEED Back Then That Canelo Would Indeed IMPROVE..And Clearly, Canelo Has...

There's Also NO ARGUMENT as to Who the BEST Fighter in the World Is, Currently...It's Canelo...

That Said, the Fact No Fewer than 4 Eddy Reynoso Fighters Have Come Up Dirty and Reynoso is Literally THE ONLY Trainer Canelo's Ever Had, is Obviously DAMNING...It's Comical to Suggest or Ignore Otherwise...

But Like You, REED Also Believes MOST Elite Level Fighters are On SOMETHING, Not Just Canelo...





REED

 

Exactly. Plant’s jab was useless. Canelo walked through it like it was a stiff breeze.

The one thing Plant did that was effective (and he barely got credit for it) was his short counter right. He landed about 3 or 4 of them very hard and flush. It was pretty and did damage, but it also highlighted that he didn’t have enough pop to bother Canelo let alone hurt him.

 

I think its 's pretty naive to believe any of the top fighters are clean to be honest. Sure, it's probably a safe bet to say Canelo's team has a better process not to get caught, considering the money he generates, but I'm not sure how much of an advantage this really is once the bell rings.

Still, not going to lie, Canelo fights exactly how you would imagine a boxer geared up go his ears would.... like a mini hulk impervious to damage and who's opponents crumble once they have the misfortune of being caught clean. The clenelo incident and the rock-like physique further raise suspicions.

 

This is not a credible source. And even if it was, it state that it makes it easier to breathe IF you have a respiratory condition.


As i said, most studies that were done on animals showed that Clen actually decrease aerobic performance, or at the very best has no positive effect on it

The impact of long-term clenbuterol on athletic performance in horses - ScienceDirect
Effect of Acute Administration of Clenbuterol on Athletic Performance in Horses - ScienceDirect
Deleterious effects of chronic clenbuterol treatment on endurance and sprint exercise performance in rats. - PubMed - NCBI

Clenbuterol diminishes aerobic performance in horses. - PubMed - NCBI


The whole myth that clenbuterol improve stamina is based on bro-science. In theory, it would seems that this.drug should improve stamina. Unfortunately, when tested scientifically, it has been proven that it's not the case

 

Clenbuterol is used for athletic performance as it increases skeletal muscle (actually strengthens and enlarges your frame). It is also very effective at repartitioning nutrients and allowing people to gain muscle without retaining water weight (an advantage other anabolic steroids do not have) it is used mostly in bodybuilding to avoid becoming bloated while using other steroids in conjunction to gain muscle mass.

That's the irony, clen is almost never used solo by anyone who knows anything about running a cycle. So it is highly unlikely it was his first time using androgenic substances.

Anavar or Winstrol with Clen are very popular for gaining size while avoiding additional unwanted fat and water retention.

Clen also has popular side effects "Clen lungs" as well as high anxiety onsetting and liver enzyme problems. One of the most popular high risk high reward steroids.... highly unlikely for a first timer when it comes to the old doping game.

 

Correction, it States Clenbuterol Stimulates "Receptors" in the Throat...

If it Helps a Person w/Compromised Lungs to BREATHE Easier, Why WOULDN'T it Do Likewise for a Fatigued Person w/Uncompromised Lungs???...





REED

 

The human body is a very complex thing, and most drugs affects it on numerous levels. For clen, ive read that taking it will kill some cells that help with stamina. Hence why it tends to decrease the stamina of those that take it

 

Clenbuterol and performance
Exercise training is expected to increase maximal aerobic
capacity (VO2max) in horses, and this increase is associated
with increased plasma volume (presumably permitting greater
cardiac output). However, even minimal therapeutic
concentrations of clenbuterol adversely affect aerobic
performance, high-intensity exercise capacity and the horse’s
ability to recover from exercise (Kearns and McKeever 2002).
Horses treated with clenbuterol and exercise training
demonstrated a reduction in VO2max (-10%) and plasma
volumes (-10%). Interestingly, no significant changes in
VO2max (-3.5%) or plasma (3.0%) of the clenbuterol-treated
horses without exercise training were found, suggesting the
antiergogenic effect of chronic clenbuterol administration in
athletic horses is a result of interaction with exercise.


Conclusion
Clenbuterol has effects in multiple body systems and tissues
directly relevant to exercise performance, including the
respiratory system, cardiovascular system, and skeletal muscle.
Some of these effects, such as bronchodilation and increased
muscle mass, could potentially be ergogenic. However,
numerous studies in horses have failed to demonstrate a clear
ergogenic benefit of clenbuterol, and in some cases, have
demonstrated impaired exercise capacity. Thus, the current
body of evidence supports the use of clenbuterol only as a
specific treatment for horses with chronic airway disease, but
not in healthy horses as a performance-enhancing drug

https://www.aaep.org/sites/default/files/issues/eve-19-5-Carlos.pdf

 

"Give me the bottle, the one I did not mix, cos Jesus told me there was no point"

People take stuff, and it works.

 

There's ton of stuff that you can take that will help you improve your performance. According to pretty much all studies, clen is not one of them.

And clenbuterol has a.very short half life (compared to roids), most ped have a longer one, and would have been detected if canelo was stacking clen with something else. As i said, clen contaminated meat is a big problem in Mexico, and the amount that were found in canelo body were compatible with such an occurence.

I don't often gives the benefit of the.doubt athletes that piss hot. But in this case, all evidence points to the fail test being the result of meat contamination and not deliberate ingestion

 

...and the Fact 3 Other Eddy Reynoso Fighters Also Pissed HOT Points To????...






REED

 

They pissed hot for what? I know valdez pissed hot for Phentermine, but from what i gathered, its not a really useful ped (dont know too much about it, so i wont argue on this one)

Again, im pretty sure canelo is on the gear, but i dont think he's more on it than all top.fighters

 

Oscar Valdez - Phentermine
Luis Nery - Zilpaterol
Julio Cesar Martinez - Clenbuterol (a Year or So After Canelo Pissed Dirty)...




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