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  1. Boxingfan25

    Boxingfan25 Undisputed Champion

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    One of the most exciting things to see in boxing is the knockout. But not all knock-out artists are created equal. There are many types of power. You have one-punch knockout power. You have volume punchers. You have what's called heavy-handed punchers. There are many names so can you think of examples of fighters and the type of power they possess?

    Tyson-One Punch knockout power

    Trinidad-One Punch Knockout power

    Errol Spence Jr- Accumulative power(not quite a knock out power but wears his opponents down with volume)

    Roy Jones Jr- Stinging power-Not quite one knockout type raw power but would tko a lot of people and his speed and power hurt his opponents.

    Manny Pacquio-One punch knockout power

    On a side note, Danny Garcia was just asked who was the hardest puncher he has faced. I was sure he was going to say Spence but surprised he said Mathyiste was the hardest followed but Thurman not Spence...that surpised me that Thurman hits harder than Spence.
     
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    Vitali, Chavez, Marciano:- accumulation punchers, generally.

    Marciano; Wlad occasional 1 punch KO artists

    Hearns/Robinson/Leonard: accuracy speed and snap plus volume and accuracy , overwhelming, befuddl8ng, occasionally surgical 1 punch stuff

    Amir Khan: poor man's version of above







    Lewis/Wlad/Holmes: jab and setup merchants, emphasis on right hands, hook or uppercut in finishings.

    Tua, Shavers,Marciano: blunt force bombers. No jab, roll in, fire.



    Frazier: elite epitome of blunt force bombers

    Foreman and Liston: walked down specialists Via the jab, close range finishing with all manner of shots. Unique in that they started off at range with the pole jab, then tried to get closer as the jabs both wore down the opponent and gave them a better sense of range. They were swarmers in the end, content to roto-till at point blank range until it was over.



    Hamed/Roy Jones: weird angles, leap in, speed and accuracy. Showboating and unorthodoxy to both confuse and demoralise, and to disguise the finishing shots.

    Tyson: unique style based off evasiveness and explosiveness. Unlike Tua, defence was emphasised via the jab and upperbody movement.
     
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    Cotto: routine textbook style with the high hands and walk in style.

    Trinidad was very similar, hands up, walk in, regular punching style, just a bit more explosive.

    Mosley: epitomised "power boxing", volume times power at speed, sort of buzzed and fazed the opponent. Overwhelming rather than punishing.

    Meldrick Taylor: Meldrick is what Khan wanted to be. Much like Mosley just not as heavy in the hands. Overwhelming power rather than crushing power.
     
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    It takes a special type of hater to deny Jones as a knockout puncher. He's easily one of the biggest punching middleweights of all time. Without question one-punch KO power. It's not even debatable, UNLESS you have a hard-on against him.
     
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    Jones is probably the most powerful middleweight ever in terms of literally being able to KTFO a guy at 160. I mean, he does have a weight advantage over the older guys, but that mf was a huge, huge puncher.
     
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    That's why I've got him in there, it's different, but it's no less real.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    My main GUY ...RANDALL BAILEY...POWER++ he's not out of the fight.... No one will forget his come from behind KO of Mike Jones...

     
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    Woa chill explosive. Let me explain. There are guys that have this explosive One-punch knockout power that no matter where it lands it can flatline people. Beterbiev, Tyson, Wilder, Shavers, Inoue, Trinidad had that type of power. Jones didnt. He wasnt flatlining people knocking them unconscious like Pacquio did to Hatton or Martinez did to Williams. Now Jones is technically a TKO artist more than a ko artist. He will drop and daze opponents but never ever seen him just knock people unconscious on a consistant basis. That was my point. You got grand slam power, you got triples and doubles type power and you got singles type power. Jones was like a triples and doubles guy. He was a little slugger himself.
     
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    What about the Griffin rematch? Glen Kelly?.
     
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    rjj knocked out v. hill out with a body-shot! when do you ever see that?
     
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    I remember reading a letter written to the now-defunct boxing magazine called Boxing Monthly where the guy was complaining and saying that Bob Foster -another guy who should be in this thread- destruction of Dick Tiger totally put Jones KO of Virgil Hill in the shadows.

    Just because what Foster did- to a former 160lbr by the way- was "better" in no way diminished what Jones did.

    Hills ribs were no less broken.
     
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    When it comes to power

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    Bob Foster has numerous one shot KO that were very impressive.....obviously a spindly puncher who set up shots off height and reach rather than blazing speed or confounding and overwhelming fighters....I'd put him in the "unique" category with shades of somebody like Lennox Lewis.
     
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    Really?
     
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    British fighters only (last thirty years or so):

    Benn - it was basically all he had, but he had it at 160. Great to watch. Proper one shot power.

    Eubanks - sneaky, odd angle power. Very hard to explain, but he obviously hit very hard. Nearly killed a man.

    Froch - accumulation power. Obviously punched hard but rarely scored one punch KOs. Lots of highlight reel combination KOs.

    Hamed - speaks for itself.

    Lewis - ridiculous power in the right hand. As hard a puncher as it gets.

    Haye - a flashy fraud who basically prospered on that quick, hard right cross. Built a career on it.

    Will think of more when not in the pub.

    MTF lol
     
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    Frochs late stoppages are unique to his odd power. A sort of persistent-power.

    Colin Jones, Richie Evatt.... They had mysterious underfed white-persons power. Wet-Rag power.

    Pat Barrett, whom you've probably never heard of. The British Hearns.

    Carl Thompson, who has to be Englands answer to Saad Muhammad. Vulnerable, but turned over both Haye and Eubank in comeback performances. Also late stoppages of Rothmann and Dunstan. Knocked out Uriah Grant and floored Ezra Sellers twice in a war he lost. Legit whacker.

    Pele Reid. Obviously a bust but a legitimate puncher.

    Jimmy Wilde.... 5-2", 115lbs, routinely KOd much bigger men.
     
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    Jimmy Wilde is the obvious UK fighter for this thread, but apart from a few clips, you're relying on reports.

    Thompson is a good shout. Limited as fuck, but could hit.

    Macaroni was another very limited sort who could bang cunts out. No chin, but he hurt what he could hit.

    MTF
     
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    Yeah forgot about Enzo Mac. Goofy looking dork but could hurt anything he hit. My favourite was when he was totally shot and was dragged over to Russia to be slayed by some newbie and instead he did a number in him.


    This is it. Its important to remember that Enzo was getting bashed by everyone at this point. Everyone. Frenkel, Afolabi, they were all teeing off.

     
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    Cooper obviously could hit, but he's an obvious one from bygone days.

    Frank Bruno was a big punching cunt. No stamina, but he could certainly hit. Concussive, one shot power. Hurt much better fighters with single shots (then lost).

    MTF
     
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    I'll hoy Michael Watson in for debate. One shot power? Not a chance. But he had Eubanks in more trouble than anyone else ever did and he made Benn lie down from a jab (after three rounds of hitting him hard in the face).

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    On the UK domestic scene Wayne Alexander had stupid, lights out power. Poor technique, chinny etc but that power was legit world class and bailed him out on too many occasions to count.
     
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    I think Bruno is the only guy to legit hurt prime Tyson.
     
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    Fuckin forgot about him and his online feuding with some guy calked Sinclair.
     
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    Very good shout.

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    Possibly. I believe Tyson said Bruno hit him the hardest of anybody he fought at the time. (first fight)

    Mike's usually pretty honest but i don't put much stock in those kinds of things.
     
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    Frank was as limited as fuck, but he really could hit. Proper, concussive power.

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    Mike says he'll die soon. Well we'll see if he's telling the truth.
     
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    Frank might be the king of knocking out 5'11" 180lb white guys.
     
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    I agree with most of this but feel like guys like Beterbiev and Foreman just have bludgeoning power. Not so much the big snap one hitter quitter, which I think is a different type of power (Randall bailey, Julian Jackson, Thomas hearns, deontay wilder)

    Tyson seems to me in a similar category, rarely knocking people dead more of a precision power puncher. Louis was a great example of the two combined.
     

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