What's up with GGG Cownelo odds

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  1. BOSS

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    GGG 5-1. Why's that? Is it only because Cownelo is simply a lot more popular nowadays than when they fought last?
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    Golovkin couldn't get the decision when he was closer to his prime. Now he's 40 and has looked like shit his last few fights
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Yep and add to that there's more of a reason than ever to give Canelo a decision at this point. Not much future upside to a GGG victory for "boxing". (money)

    Although GGG has shown a great chin i'm not even sure he'll need the judges anyway. He gets hit flush way too often now. Stoppage/KO isn't out of the question.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If Golovkin has one more in him, then it’s gonna be another close decision that Canelo will likely get.

    But it would be absolutely poetic justice if Golovkin gets the decision this time.. Even if it isn’t clear cut.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    GGG is old and would look fat at SMW
     
  6. Irish

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    Yep....imagine Canelo going 0-2 and being 1-1-1 in his "career defining trilogy"
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    Golovkin is all juiced up out of his head like marquez was for the third and fourth pacquiao fight. so maybe he'll go for broke and land some hail mary. even then alvarez chin seems good enough to withstand it.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    What I do think is possible is that in his attempt to not only erase the memory of his last fight but also in Canelo’s attempt to KO Golovkin could also possibly lead to him opening himself up too much. The “madder” Canelo is, the better for Gennady.
     
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    Boxingfan25 Undisputed Champion

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    You can't count GGG out. I hate to use the old cliche "styles make fights" but in this case it fits perfectly. GGG will always be thorn on Canelo's side. The question is how much does the older fighter have left in the tank? The safe bet would be Canelo by UD.

    But it's been 4 years since they last met in 2018. GGG looked like carp vs Murata. And Canelo has looked spectacular vs his last 8 opponents. The Bivol fight notwithstanding obviously. It wouldn't surprise me if Canelo stops GGG @ 168.
     
  10. D MAN

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    I dunno what fights you guys were watching but Canelo clearly outclassed the guy twice already no reason to think this fight would be any different.
     
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    Boxingfan25 Undisputed Champion

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    I disagree I think this is a styles match up very similar to Pacquio vs Marquez 4. Marquez was seen as the older fighter on the downside of his career. Fighting Manny in a weight class 147 where he had shown to be innefective and in the end he was able to get a clear victory to their rilvary. GGG has a puncher's chance.
     
  12. Double L

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    disagree. i thought ggg won both fights. he clearly won the first, with a minority saying some bullshit about canelo outboxing him. then, in the next fight ggg showed what it means to actually out-box someone. he won both with two different startegies.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Honestly, I won't even go into the first fight. The second fight I have rescored 3 times now, it was definitely closer but fairly easy to score. It was close in terms of rounds but it was also clear who won each round, there weren't many "swing" rounds, if there were any at all, and Golovkin won more of them. I don't get how anybody could score it for Canelo, let alone claim he "outclassed" GGG.
     
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    By any chance are you Russian???
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    No. Lol
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I still can’t find a way to score those two fights against Golovkin. Canelo did BETTER the second fight but I still didn’t see him winning it.

    That said, Team Canelo is clearly confident that Golovkin is ready to be taken. It would be sweet if this backfired.
     
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    The ONLY case I can see for GGG winning is if you score by ‘punchstats’. Otherwise Canelo made him look foolish.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    We'll have to agree to disagree on this one methinks. There were rounds where Canelo showed some nice defensive moves but GGG was the only one actually throwing.
     
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    Difference to me was Canelo was visibly landing bombs meanwhile I can't recall GGG really teeing off on him.
     
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    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Exactly. If you look at punchstats Gennady did alright.. but punchstats include any punches that touch the opponent, no matter how weak or blocked completely. Canelo continually setup and landed bombs and combos while Gennady touched him with jabs now and then. How the hell does that win fights?? Answer: it doesn’t, thank god boxing judges are there once again to get it right. The boxing public are basically complete retards when it comes to scoring fights.
     
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    Exactly. I watched the fight after everyone else watched it and I remember going into it hearing how G won etc... I'm watching it and I'm not seeing G do shit other than some jabs.. but most of his offense seemed to hit arms or glancing blows or gloves etc... meanwhile canelo was snapping the shit out of G's head with power shots... canelo landed some vicious counters... G impressed me with his chin but I honestly can't recall any flush power shots landing on Canelo
     
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    Fucking hell.

    MTF
     
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  23. Double L

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    lol. you want us to rally behind boxing judges?
     
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    canelo did a good job of "hiding" it when he got hit. but he got hit plenty.
     
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    D MAN "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    No I wouldnt expect that from Joe Q Boxing Fucking Retard public. But the reality is the judges get it right waaaay more than the twittersphere of idiots who score fights based on who they want to see win.
     
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    So they should..they're judges, the twitterati are...twitterati.

    Judges are asked to sit in judgment on the efforts of two men who have combined a lifetime of efforts to the 12 rounds of effort at hand.

    They aren't obliged to "get it right" but they're certainly obliged to try to get it right and the more capable they are, and the more they hold themselves out as being capable, then the more they should get it right.

    That's why shit like AJ getting the nod over Usyk or Canelo getting a draw with Mayweather or Canelo getting wide scores Vs GGG is risible.

    Not because they got it wrong but because even the Twits could see they got it wrong.

    I scored AJ Vs Usyk II way too wide for Usyk but even on 2nd viewing I couldn't make the case for AJ winning.....but a so-called "Judge" did.

    That's the point.....they don't have to "get it right" but they have to not get it badly wrong.
     
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    Boxingfan25 Undisputed Champion

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    I can't make a case for Joshua winning the fight. But Usyk didnt blow him out like he did on the first fight. There was rounds AJ clearly won and others were close. I don't think its an outrage that one Judge had it close or AJ ahead. At the end of the day the right man was awarded the victory so quit your whinning.

    The same with the GGG vs Canelo fights. All were close fights neither one can say they dominated the other one. I hope this last fight ends with a ko and let the best man win. Hopefully that will put an end to people crying about GGG getting robbed cause I dont believe he did. "Robbed" is the most overused word in boxing forums. Most people dont understand what a robbery is.
     
  28. Neil

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    i understand corruption. and it clearly took place in the first golovkin alvarez fight. do you dare dispute this?
     
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    Stop whinning.
     
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    Misery loves company lol
     

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