Is Canelo racist?

Answer my question. Who is the best fighter Canelo has beaten? What's his best win, esp. in the last five or six years?

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A guy who ran away from Carl Froch over a decade ago, no less. These are the top guys Canelo is building his unmatched resume with.

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If it really doesn't mean anything then it should've been easy to find another fighter that has accomplished the same. But, you didn't. Because there isn't.

Since we are dealing with subjective matter, I used undefeated and champion because they are FACTS.

I didn't mention anyone who had a "Jr" belt by the way. I'm not saying all the fighters I listed were anything special, I said some were undefeated champs and perhaps "world class." The other fighters don't hold that distinction.

So now you want to bring up "he really lost" argument. Do you realize how many fighters I can do that to? That's why I said from the beginning, that is easy to tear apart anyone's resume. The motive behind it is the curious part.

He lost to Bivol. So you must like your fighters to play it safe. When was the last time you have seen a fighter at 5'8 at 175?

He cleaned out 168, saw trash left and tried to do the same at 175.

You can trash Canelo all you want, but the fact remains that his resume at 32yrs old shits on everyone else's fighting today.

Age. Another subjective factor you need to attempt to treat Canelo down. Wilder was 35 in his last fight. Does anyone believe age had anything to do with his loss? I hadn't heard it nor read anything of the sort.

It seems your grasping at straws now, don't feel bad, you're not the first or the last.

 

Let's compare the resume of Chocolatito to Canelo in the last 6 years.


Chocolatito 35 years old went 5 and 3 the last six years. Got knocked the fuck out in one fight.

Julio Cesar Martinez 2022 Win Decision
Gallito Estrada 2021 Loss SD
Israel Gonzales 2020 UD win
Kalid Yafai Win tko 2020
Diomel Diokos 2019 TKO win
Moises Fuentes 2018 tko win
Wisasaksee Wangek 2017 Ko loss
Wisakee Wangek 2017 Majority Dec loss


Canelo 32 years old record 58- 2-2(39 kos)

In 6 years went 10-1-1

GGG SD win 2022
Bivol Loss decision 2022
Plant Tko Win 2021
Saunder Tko win 2021
Smith MD win 2020
Yildrin TKo win 2021
Kovalev Ko Win 2019
Jacobs SD win 2019
Fielding TKO win 2018
GGG Maj Decision win 2018
GGG draw 2017
Chavez Jr 2017 UD win

Now who's got the better resume in the last 6 years????

 

Please dont talk about running and Froch in the same sentence when that pussy retired in his prime instead of going for the rematch with Ward.

 

The dishonesty

Chocolatito's entire prime was below 115 yet you cut off his entire career before his first loss.

Embarrassing argument.

 

It's not really worth discussing anything with someone who thinks that 'age is a subjective factor'.

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Jesus. This guy

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I love how there has to be a 'motive' behind asking legitimate questions about a fighter's resume. What the fuck do I care about Canelo, or him me?

I've got someone telling me that 'age is subjective' What is required here? Links to peer-reviewed medical papers illustrating the fact that humans decline physically from the age of about 25? Statistics to show how many boxers win fights at age 25 compared to 35? What about the claim that 'GGG was widely accepted to have won the first Canelo fight' is a subjective statement. Do I really have to provide links to the hundreds of ringside reporters and editors who scored the fight for GGG, or perhaps articles from the boxing press who called it a robbery?

These are not subjective statements. They are facts, which can be evidenced as such and which every person here knows to be correct.

Yet those making these points are the ones with 'motives'.

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Your argument that Chocolatito's resume is better than Canelo's is based on what a legion of Neo Nazis at ESB forum think. They say so so it must be gospel. Yeah sure buddy

 

Aren't YOU the one picking out timeframes that support your narrative?

YOU mentioned the 6 year bullshit. No one else did.

 

Did anyone think Wilder was past his prime at 35? No.

Yet you mentioned Kovalev and GGG past theirs at similar ages. If that's not SUGESTIVE then WTF is?

 

It's based on my knowledge of the opponents and which ones I deduce as better but okay.

 

No, it wasn't me.

 

it has to be golovkin. i asked the same question, what are his 3 best wins aside from the golovkin rematch. didnt get much of a specific answer

 

I agree. Can't get any kind of straight answer from any of the groupies in this thread.

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You don't care about Canelo, but try to tear down his resume in remedial fashion.

I've seen posters ding this for 20 years. That's good I already knew what you were going to post before you did.

Please share with everyone where I stated the winner of Canelo vs GGG.

I said you were grasping at straws, now you're straight up lying.

Pathetic, I buried your sorry ass, it's sad that you have yet to realize it.

 

Of course Wilder is 'passed his prime' at 35. Every fucking fighter is, as a matter of simply biology.

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You think age 'is subjective'. You couldn't bury a dead body in a pre-dug hole.

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That's cute, so I'm guessing the 25 year old Wilder would've knocked out the 35 year old Wilder? That's some funny shit.

 

Dude everyone ages at different speed, that is simple biology. If you think everyone is exactly the same biologically you're just a moron.

You're buried and now I'm pissing on your grave. How's it taste liar?

 

Kovalev had become a known alcoholic who had been KOd by ward, elieder alvarez, and nearly yarde. hard to consider him at or near his peak.

As for Alvarez, in my opinion, his record should have 5 losses. Mayweather jr, Lara, Golovkin 1 & 2 and Bivol. that is how i scored those fights. I will give him the lara and golovkin rematches as close victories. thats 3 decisive losses.

objectively looking at his best clear victories you would have to say Cotto, Kovalev (albeit a diminished version) and either Callum Smith, Saunders or trout. he has a good resume, and will easily get into the hall of fame as a first ballot fighter.

 

A grown man posted this.

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You're a remarkably stupid man.

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Haha so many have given up and resorted to straight up lying and bullshit replies like this.

So predictable. Did your ego get hurt or what?

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We are still waiting for you to produce the long list of highly esteemed active fighters that have had a better resume than Canelo over the last 6 years a time frame you picked for some odd reason btw . Since beating undefeated champions is not good enough for you and you Meetthefeebles a keyboard warrior holds prize fighters to a much higher standard please show us a list. I cant wait to see it lmao.

 

You are a grown man. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Where did I say I could produce a list of fighters with stellar resumes?

I straight up asked you a simple question, twice. You've refused to answer it. I simplified it to the last six years, in the vain hope you would answer it. Feel free to answer this question: who is the best fighter Canelo has beaten?

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You gotta be kidding me. You're going to bring up the "Ward Knock out" as an example to prove what, that Kovalev was chinny?

C'mon man you act like we didnt see the fight. Ward got away with low blows throughout the entire fight. That so called knock out was caused by repeated nutshots and being exhausted so Weeks stopped it(bad stoppage/pretended like the low blows never happened). That proves nothing about Kovalev being chinny. And if he was so shot how the fuck did he almlost ko Ward himself in the first fight. Horrible example. Atrocious.

 

Agreed, the second Ward fight was one of the worst display of officiating I ever saw. Weeks should have had his license revoked permanently following this travesty. The Elieder Alvarez loss though made me questioned Kovalev's chin, especially in his older age as his training and out of the ring habits seemed to have taken a lot out of him