The Ali that beat cooper in 63 vs. The Holmes that beat Norton in 78

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  1. Anthony

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    Who wins?
     
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    Wrong section, Mr. Admin.
     
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    Holmes could have beaten that Ali. He had Liston's jab with way more movement and variety. Ali then was faster, sure, but he'd have to be cos he didn't have his man strength yet. It's a hard fight but I think Holmes can edge it.
     
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    well if Dog Jones could do it...
     
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    Ali just performed in big moments in a way Holmes wasn't capable of. Knowing that fact, I would take even a pre-prime Ali to raise his game and outpoint Larry.
     
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    Gotta go with Ali. At his best, he just knew how to seize the moments and rise up to a level the opponent couldn’t match.

    Ali via clear UD.
     
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    Do you think that was Ali’s prime ?
     
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    The difference between this Ali and the one who schooled Liston is nothing more than drive. He'd have the drive to raise his game just as he did Liston, and he'd beat Holmes IMO.
     
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    Any Version of Pre-Exile Ali > Any Version of Larry Holmes...




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    You're being too generous to Holmes.

    Even the Rumble in the Jungle Ali beats the best Holmes.
     
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    Not sure about this... No way Holmes fall for the rope a dope and he'd be quicker than this version of Ali with a much sharper jab. He'd be a slight favorite imo.
     
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    Holmes would have outdone Ali.
     
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