Teofimo will not live up to his hype

Just stating the now obvious. We got it wrong on this kid, and there's no more giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Shitty defense, and limited actual boxing skill.

 

Greynotsoold made a really good point. He had a lot of potential, but his dad's attitude seems to have fucked that up. The only way for him to do anything substantial in the sport is if something awful happened to his old man.

But imagine what a guy like Reyneso could do with a talent like Lopez.

 

He needs Buddy McGirt to walk into his gym, kick his dad's ass, then take over training duties.

 

This….

Toooo EARLY to Completely Write Off Teofimo, But He Absolutely HAS to Get a New Trainer…His Ol’ Man is a Thirsty Attention Whore, NOT a Legit Trainer…






REED

 

The fact that he complains about an opponents style because it makes him look bad means that he’s not capable of adapting and finding a way to win like a champion. Teo and his father have continuously tried to convince themselves that they’re the best when they’re really not. He’ll end up having another embarrassing loss at some point. So much talent yet unwilling to improve.

 

i think teo does not have a good chin too. and it has nothing to do with the kd against martin - more of a gut feeling and his reaction to getting hit.

 

Lopez will knock out taylor and prograis and become the man at 140

 

I don't think he has a bad chin, just that he comes in like a bull, with very few regards for defense. That makes him very susceptible to being hurt imo (though it hasn't happen as of now to his credit).

 

Norman Stone should train him

 

Teo can punch yeah, but he's fighting like a guy who fell in love with his power without having reason to. His mindset seems to be "I can just follow the guy around and throw punches at him. Eventually a good one will land and it will be over".

You can tell he was really frustrated with how Martin fought. They guy was apparently supposed to fight the way Lopez wanted him to. Kambosos was much more available all night than Martin was. Why did he lose that fight?

 

‘Fimo Lost to Kambosos In the Same Vein You Described in Your 1st Paragraph…

Completely UNDERESTIMATED Kambosos, ASSumed 1-2 Manic Attacks Would END Matters, Got DROPPED Being Overly Aggressive and Eventually CUT In Route to Losing Rather Clearly…

And ALL ‘Fimo Had Was a Thirsty Ass Cheerleader In His Corner, Telling Him He Was Winning a Fight He Wasn’t…






REED

 

I think Fimo needs a new trainer. Someone who will at least keep him focused and serious about his trade.

I doubt he beats Regis but he’ll become better for it.

 

IMO Fimo should have won that fight. The KD threw everyone off, and made them start giving rounds to Boso that he didn’t really deserve just by being a little aggressive. But Lopez Sr was still wrong to tell him that in a close fighr.

 

Yup I'm not surprised.

 

I still think Fimo is an excellent talent but agreed with the consensus that it's being wasted right now with his current training team. Definitely needs to change things up. On the purely human side, it's clear he's going through a lot of shit, and the stuff he was saying after the fight when he wasn't aware the camera was on him says a lot about his current mental state. I hope he gets himself sorted, it's just a sport at the end of the day.

 

The thing that's alarming to me is that Bozos is so bad that Fimo should have blown him out anyway.

This isn't a Buster Douglas situation, where Mike underestimated a talent fighter. Bozos has zero talent. That fact that Haney twice made the guy look like he had never boxed at all is telling.

Even Fimo at 30% should have won. The fact that he got schooled leads me to believe that we simply overestimated Fimo's actual ability.

 

You forgot about him having air in his lungs!

I get what you're saying but he didn't appear to be the same guy that annihilated Commey and decisioned Loma.

 

His Ol’ Man is There for All the WRONG Reasons…

REED’ll NEVER Forget the Loma Pre-Fight, the Camera Goes to ‘Fimo’s Dressing Room as He’s Hitting the Mitts w/Gamache…As Soon as ‘Fimo Sr. Realized Cameras Were Filming Live, He Took the Mitts from Gamache and Put Them On…Completely SELF SERVING, ATTENTION WHORING Bullshit…

Fimo Sr’s “Advice” for the Kambosos Bout Amounted To “You’re My Son, Knock Him the Fuck Out”, Basically…

‘Fimo Needed an ASS CHEWING After the Kambosos Loss; Instead His Ol’ Man ENABLED Him…

REED Gets It, ‘Fimo Sr is His BIGGEST Fan; Had His Sons Back When NOBODY Did…But the Trainer/Fighter Aspect of Their Relationship Has CLEARLY Ran its Course…

The Fact NO ONE Else in Boxing Wants ‘Fimo Sr’s Services Should Tell Jr. EVERYTHING…






REED

 

The Fight was Postponed, Cancelled and Rescheduled Countless Times and It was at a Weight ‘Fimo Should’ve LEFT at Least a Year EARLIER…

But No 2 Ways About It, It was a BAD Loss…

But As REED Stated on the Other Thread, Duran Lost to Kirkland Laing…And Before You Go the Age/Past Prime Route, Duran Beat Davey Moore and Iran Barkley AFTER the Laing Loss; Not to Mention Giving Marvin Hagler and Robbie Simms ALL They Could Handle…

Ray Leonard was DROPPED By Kevin Howard…Good to Great Fighters Have OFF Nights Sometimes…Shit Happens…

‘Fimo’s “Fight Plan” for Kambosos was a Fucking JOKE…Go Out There and Throw Hard Punches Until He Falls…That was IT!!!…’Fimo Sr. Is Literally THE Worst Trainer in Boxing, Tactically…

The Fact Joey Gamache was In ‘Fimo’s Corner On His BEST Night, Yet’s Been M.I.A. Since Should Tell You Something Bruh…

REED Wasn’t Even Surprised by How Close the Sandor Martin Fight Was, Based on Martin’s Style and the Fact “Fimo Has an Egomaniacal CHEERLEADER In His Corner….

You and REED Can Agree to DISagree, But He Thinks it’s PREMATURE to Write ‘Fimo Off, Especially if He Makes the Requisite Changes to His Team…







REED

 

Are you really comparing Duran and Fimo right now? Is this the path you're going down, simply because I'm a Duran fan? Like, what? How does this even make sense?

Where was Duran at 24-25 years old? He was the consensus P4P #1 fighter in the world at Fimo's age. He was ALREADY considered the greatest lightweight of all time by 25. Fimo will probably off himself by time he's the age Duran was in the Kirkland fight.

Fimo will never be Tyson, Leonard, or Duran, REED. That's very much apparent right now. I mean, mental make-up ASIDE... he's not a fraction as talented as those three. And he doesn't have their skill level, and yes, it's too late for him to ever pick it up. He's 25, not 17. And don't bring up Canelo again, because Canelo always had good technical skill.

I'm not saying Fimo is now a stiff, or will never win a belt, but there's too many holes in the overall game and mental makeup for this kid to ever be great.

How I feel about him has nothing to do with my outlook on his career. I hate Haney too, but it appears now Haney has a brighter future, simply because Haney's head is on straighter.

 

We can disagree on Fimo's future, but it really just makes no sense bringing up Fimo in the same breath as Mike, Leonard, and Duran. One of those guys is a top 10 all time heavyweight, while the other two are top 10 all time period. Those guys had deep resumes BEFORE they hit the downsides of their careers.

Fimo is a one hit wonder right now.

 

You’re INTENTIONALLY Missing REED’s Point, Brother X….

At ANY Point of Duran’s Career, Should He Have LOST to a Guy Like Kirkland Laing, Yes or No???…REED Ain’t Comparing ‘Fimo and Duran, More Importantly, You KNOW This Already…

But Since You’re HARPING On Kambosos and Already BURYING a 25 Year Old Fighter, REED Wanted to Point Out BAD and/or Unexpected Losses Happen to the BEST of ‘em…And Guess What, Fighters REBOUND From ‘em…

You’re Literally DEFINING ‘Fimo By 2 Bad Nights at the Office and Even Now, Have Yet to Acknowledge the LACK Of Quality Training/Astute Advice He’s Receiving btwn Rounds…

Everytime His Ol’ Man is the Lead Voice in Camp and the Corner, ‘Fimo’s Going Into Fights HANDICAPPED, Like a Basketball Team Playing 4 vs. 5….




REED

 

Again, You’re INTENTIONALLY Going Left Field w/REED’s Point…

No Matter How GREAT He Is, How Much BETTER Than ‘Fimo He Is, Duran Had NOfuckingBUSINESS Losing to Kirkland Laing, Who was a Complete UNKNOWN at the Time…Just as Ray Leonard Had NOfuckingBUSINESS Getting Dropped by Kevin Howard…

Shit Happens Though…







REED

 

What I'm essentially saying is I'm not confident that a new trainer can elevate Fimo to be great. GREAT. That's the operative word here. A GREAT fighter. You can't teach a chin to be iron, and Teo's appears mediocre.

You also can't easily train out the psychological problems he appears to have.

He has the Loma win, yes, but from here on he'll be facing guys his size or bigger.

I'm not really envisioning him going from not being able to beat Sandor Martin at 25, to dominating elite guys at 27. That type of turnaround would be pretty miraculous.

 

And we can say that Roy had no fucking business getting iced by Glen Johnson. But it doesn't matter because those things happened to those guys when they were past their bests.

Fimo is in the heart of his peak.

 

i hate to say this, but teo reminds me of berto. fast, athletic - but not a lot of skill. i think putting it all on his trainer is wishful thinking - not that a new trainer couldn't help, but a lot of it is temperment and mentality.

 

Berto might be a lil harsh, I do agree with you that a new trainer can't necessarily fix him.

This whole pro-Fimo argument is pointless anyway, because... HE IS NOT LEAVING HIS DAD!

If he won't leave his dad after a loss, then why would he leave his dad after an "official" win?

 

A thing I'll add about Fimo that gives me worry REGARDLESS of trainer: He doesn't really have much head movement, and head movement ain't a skill that you develop AFTER 25. You really have to develop it young to make it part of your muscle memory. Duran and Tyson already had great head movement by their early 20s. Either that, or you need an insane radar like Jones or Benitez - Fimo ain't got that radar.

Even when Canelo was green, he always showed solid head movement and defensive awareness. Fimo doesn't show it.

 

Some good posts in this thread. I haven’t seen Fimo fight since Loma but this was entertaining to read all your thoughts. Every time I read a boxing thread like this it really makes me feel out of touch with the sport and the boxing talk part of the forum and that makes me sad. I really want to get back in there so I can start conversing here again but I never know when the fights are on and I’m not sure they even show them over here.

I think I’ll have a good cry in my pillow tonight as I reminisce the good ol days of when I knew what the fuck was going on in boxing.

 

Roy NEVER Beat Anyone Meaningful After Losing to Glen Johnson…

Unlike Duran…






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