Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois

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  1. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Seems to me that it was clearly a legal bodyshot, and the way usyk reacted afterward every time dubois went to the body seems to indicate that.

    But as said by others, it doesn't means that he couldnt have beaten the 20 counts if it had been counted as a kd
     
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    where do you find these pugilistic dilettantes, xplosive?
     
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    Dubois quit again. Usyk went down from the body shot, which appeared legal, but he would have gotten up.

    I don't see why people are siding with a quitter and assuming Usyk would have just taken the 10 count.

    I never saw so much positive energy for a guy who was just stopped by a jab for the second time in his career and who looks for a way out when the going gets tough.
     
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    Wank Warren demanding a N/C
     
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    Dubois' Taking it UP the Ass from His Peers, Deservedly So...


    Zhilei Zhang: Dubois Basically Quit, He Needs To Work on His Heart - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)

    Warren on Dubois: You Can’t Lose Your Momentum; You’ve Got to Grit Your Teeth and Overcome That - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)

    Bellew: When Going Gets Tough, Brook Looks For a Way Out - Dubois is The Same - Boxing News (boxingscene.com)



    Possessing the GIVE UP Gene Will Actually EMBOLDEN Future Dubois Opponents, Because Even if They're On the WRONG End of a Beating, They All KNOW Dubois is 1-2 Just Good Shots Away from TAPPINGthefuckOUT, Mentally....


    REED:afro:
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Exactly.

    A guy like Khan had a horrible chin, but he wasn’t a quitter. He would go down swinging.

    Michael Grant was the same way. Trash chin, limited as hell, but would go down swinging.

    Dubois is finished before he even got started.
     
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    The fuck Khan wasn't a quitter!

    That cock sucker wasted my money when I went live to the Garden to see him fight Bud and he quit.
     
  9. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    To be honest, khan was at the end of the road when he quit. A bit like chavez against dlh
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Well… Yeah that’s true. I had forgotten about that fight, honestly. Lol
     
  11. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    That was literally the one time though, and like others have said he was absolutely done by that point. Khan was one of those guys who just didn't know when they were beaten, even when it was obvious to the rest of the globe :Jest:
     
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    Just to make it clear, I agree with everyone who called Crawford-Khan a quitjob, it totally was. I would never argue otherwise, I just think the dude deserves a break :Jest:
     
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    If REED's Not Mistaken, EVERY Knockdown Dubois' Suffered was a Result of HIM Deciding to Take a Knee After Disliking the "Taste" of a Particular Punch He Ate...

    Can't Recall Dubois Being Knocked OFF His Feet, Per Se...It's Like He's FLEEING the Scene, BAILING OUT...

    If Dude Plans On Fuuuuuurthering His Career, a Sports PSYCHOLOGIST Might Be in Order...




    REED:afro:
     
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    Khan for Sure Gets a PASS from REED, Given the PHASE of His Career @ the Time...Dude was Literally a Source of COMEDIC KO Relief for Many Years, Yet NEVER Bitched Up, @ Least; Until....:Jest:

    JoM Referenced Chavez-DeLa 2...No One Calls Duran a Quitter Either, Despite the "No Mas" Fight...Or Pryor-Arguello 2, Where Alexis Sat On His Ass DEJECTEDLY, as the Ref Counted Him Out...Vitali Klitschko Even Gets the Pass, Despite the MAJOR Backlash he Took vs. Byrd...But That's Because Vitali ADMIRABLY Redeemed Himself....

    Dubois' ALREADY Illustrated He's NOT Worthy of Being Grouped w/the Aforementioned...Yes, REED's Even Ruling Out a KlitschkoESQUE Redemption...Per Ol' School, Inner City Adage, Dubois' "...Heart Pumps Kool-Aid"




    REED:afro:
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Dubois is not made for boxing. Agreed with reed that the odds of him redeeming himself are pretty much nil
     
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    Right after Dubois' loss, WBA named new 'regular' heavyweight champion:Jest:
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    How the body shot is the story of this fight is beyond me. The real story is Dubois being a quitter.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Just watched the fight in FULL on YouTube.

    Dubois just didn’t wanna be there. He was put down by glancing blows and the shot that ended it all was a JAB. And it wasn’t like Brook when he was hurt by Crawford’s jab before being finished off. Usyk’s jab looked like it glanced off and Dubois just looked for a way it and found it.

    I still think Usyk schools Wilder, honestly. Wilder has a puncher’s chance but I think the gap in ability is too wide for Wilder’s power to make a difference here.

    Usyk vs Fury is still the fight to make.
     
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    Boxing fans are so unforgiving hahaha. So quick about labeling someone a "quitter" after a single misstep, well, that's like calling a rocket a dud because it had one failed launch. Let's keep it real - everyone's got their moments, even the mighty Mike Tyson with his nibbling incident in the ring. But hey, last time I checked, he's still a heavyweight legend, not the heavyweight quitter.
     
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    From a business perspective I get why Warren's crew are making a big deal out of it. Get the casuals to scream robbery, maybe force a rematch. Get Fury another payday before the unification bout etc.

    It's just so fucking obvious though and I don't think anyone cares. Even the casuals know Usyk wins a rematch with no fuss.
     
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    Just realised 5 of the last 6 Usyk fights have been against Brits. Give him a Latvian or something before Fury.
     
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    Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day. Kind of weird to see so many people call him a hw great he when he did not even clean the division of a single country lol
     
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