Your favorite bums

Yes. Thank you. It was him.

 

Nevermind. I wasn't crazy. It wasn't him.

 

Julian Letterlough is another "bum" I always liked. Again, he wasn't outside the top 40, but he just wasn't particularly good outside of having big power. He sure was fun to watch.

I've now listed both Echols and Letterlough, and both died young. Damn.

 

To be clear, far from bums, but non-champion somewhat obscure. These would've been fighters I watched on espn fnf or fox.

JC Candelo
Eidy Moya
Tito Mendoza
Brian Vera

 

Ben Tackie was another fringe guy I was a big fan of.

Back in the day, I picked him to upset Tszyu, and wrote a long analysis on here of why. Looking back, I have to chuckle at myself. If that fight occurred today, I would have never picked an upset, but I was young and dumb.

 

The pre-Phillips tszyu who was face first and all offense might have been hurt by Tackie. But that's not the tszyu who showed up.

 

Depends on the "Bum" CRITERIA...If a SUB .500 Winning % Matters, REED Nominates Emmanuel Augustus, for the WIN!!!




REED

 

Saul Duran

 

WIN….Letterlough is another.. an a few other forgotten name boxers who fought on ESPN…USA boxing…


Not a bum…even won some belts but limited and was a come forward tank Ruslan Provodnikov…

 

In no way amd shape does Provodnikov qualify for this thread.

 

Helenius was far more than top 40 even in the later stage of his career. And even if he was, he had pierced the top 20 at some point so obviously he had a bit of attention around him. Furthermore, he's a hw, and they play by different rules.

But enough with derailing your thread my pick would be Stephane Savage. Tough, llimited dude who was far better than his mediocre record suggested. Made for some decently entertaining scraps (local club shows in Quebec where broadcasted on community tv back in the early 2000's). Main reason though is that he was the main ''star'' at the boxing gym I used to train as a teenager. Made me realize how hard boxing was

 

900 players dressed over a whole season, not at a specific point in time. A time interval is quite different from a point in time my Finnish friend ;). There's a maximum of 23 active players per Nhl team and 32 teams, so basically 732 players maximum at a given point in time in the NHL. For boxing, 18 divisions * 40, so 720 boxers. More or less the equivalent of a hockey player never playing in the NHL. Which is a 3rd liner in the AHL.

 

Or in a leading role of Russian or Swiss or Swedish league, thus hardly a bum nor a professional loser

 

Maybe in the swiss or sweden league, but hell no in the khl (bar a few exceptions whom playstyle fits better there). And also, lets be honest, but the 900th better hocker player is much more proficient at hockey than the 900th better boxer is at boxing. The former is a fulltime pro who make a decent living playing hocker, and has access to top notch coaches and medical therapists, while the later is probably a mailman that goes to the gym 2 or 3 times a week

 

Depends totally on the division, but I believe you greatly underrate the level of top-40. According to boxrec, the #40 heavy at this moment is amateur superstar Jaov, who now is 13-0 (13). Number #50 is Jack Massey, who is 20-2

At middleweight, #40 is a Polish guy who is 24-2-1, at ligtweight it is a Spaniard who is 19-3-1.

So while these guys are definitely not stars, they are not guys who hit the gym twice a week and take dives in fights, either.

And yes, most of these guys are rather unknown. Starting this thread I was interested to hear if someone follows boxing on more local level and has noticed some interesting characters

 

Jal olov would lay a beating on all but about 5 or 10 heavyweights. Right now

 

Agreed. Provo arguably beat a HOFmer (I had him winning).

That's a bigger accomplishment than anyone else on this list.

 

To be fair, Tackie wouldn't beat any version of Tszyu.

Tackie wasn't as good as Philips.

 

Yeah but Jaov will definitely crack the top 40 at one point in his career (I think he's already in the top 20), so bar an absolute disaster, he won't meet your criteria. The other nobody you listed might very well too. Anyway I understand where your coming from. Honestly I'm a bit surprised Reed or Greynotsoold don't have a couple of club fighters they met personally and they're fond of. I know Jesus of Montreal used to bounce with Paul Clavette, a boxer who had minor success at the local level.

 

Haha, seems like we can't spell Jalo lov correctly without fighbeat's auto corrector spamming an emoticon

 

HW is different, since lower level guys can't hop tp another categories. And you specifically asked for guys that NEVER cracked the top 40's, a lot of the guys ranked lower than there will crack it soon enough (hence aren't ''bums'') or used to be in the top 40 (like Austin Trout, who is currently #58 per boxrec at SMW)

 

Darnell Boone deserves a mention I reckon.

 

Marion Wilson was a tough, tough guy.

 

Bert Cooper or Emanuel Augustus.

 

REED Met Emmanuel Augustus During His Matchmaking Days....

Brought Augustus to Dallas to Face Charles Hatley; Picked Him Up from the Airport, Checked Him Into His Hotel & Hung Out w/Him Post-Fight...PROUDLY, REED Can Say He's Smoked Weed w/Emmanuel Augustus!!! Bought the Sack for Him and Everything...

But to Your Point, REED's Good Friends "To This Day!!!" w/Several Journeyman Level Fighters from the Dallas Area Like:

Taronze Washington - (17-26, 9 KO's) - Took L's to Andre Berto, Juan Dela Rosa, Alfredo Angulo, Vanes Martirosyan, Austin Trout, Lanardo Tyner, Yori Boy Campas, Bryan Vera, Glen Tapia and Others...Even w/the L's, Taronze was a Texas State Champion in 2 Weight Classes...Undeniably SKILLED Fighter, Reliable Beard, EXCEPTIONAL Sparring Partner...

Larry "Slomoshun" Smith - (13-55-2, 9 KO's) - The "Moshun Man" Faced Jermell Charlo, Felix Diaz, Wale Omotoso, Buddy McGuirt Jr., Gary O'Sullivan, Bryan Vera & Ashley Theophane...

Domonic Jenkins - (15-12, 7 KO's) - Fought Malcolm Tann, Chris Arreola, Eddie Chambers, Tye Fields, Chazz Witherspoon and Rydell Booker...

Derrick Moon (13-30-1, 3 KO's) - Faced 16 UNDEFEATED Fighters and 13 More with Just 1-2 Losses...

Rest Assured, NONE of These Men Would Have the SLIGHTEST Problems



REED

 

What do you mean by your last phrase Reed?

 

Meant to Say NONE of Them Would Have the Slightest Problems In an Everyday, Hand to Hand Street Fight, Despite Their Shitty Records….

Forgot to COMPLETE the Sentence for Some Damn Reason…



REED

 

Lol, yeah thats for sure. Even these low level guys are killers

 

One of the funniest moments in TNF history was after Bert Cooper derailed the hype train, Richie "The Bull" Melito with a brutal first round stoppage. After the fight, one of Melito's handlers goes up to Melito and says, "Good news! They're gonna give you a rematch!"

The look Melito gives this guy is like, "Rematch? Did you see what just happened, motherfucker??"

 

Oh yeah. Cooper later said he was offered money to take a dive against Melito and he refused.