Ryan Garcia suspended, Haney fight ruled NC

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  1. Xplosive

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    Devin's finished.
     
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    I remember that Ruiz sued Toney after he tested positive in their fight. Don't recall how it turned out though...
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Devin has just made the worst possible PR decisions anyone could make after a fight. Even worse than Shakur Stevenson.
     
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    Welcome to the "Disputative" Devin Haney era
     
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    “…the Fighting by Garcia was Non-Consensual”…



    REED:eek:
     
  7. Irish

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    The non consensual thing makes sense but how they phrase it doesn't.

    The concept is simple:- Haney never consented to being hit by somebody who has taken proscribed substances.

    No different than had they found plaster of Paris in Cheatos gloves post-Cotto. Team Cotton would simply say " we never consented to that".

    It has legs, legally.

    Where it will probably fall down is on the question of proof and a judge might reasonably conclude that people taking performance enhancers is simply an acceptable risk germane to the sport which you are implied to have consented to.

    Again, as an outright legal concept, it is applicable to the circumstances.

    But from a boxing POV, it's just plain dumb.

    Take the fucking hit and use it to squeeze a deal out of the guilty parties.

    Oscars a mug but his lawyers ain't.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Can't say I disagree with Haney. Im of the opinion that PED should be legal in sports, but they are actually prohibited. Haney reputation and standing in the sport has decreased tremendously since his ''loss'' (even though it was overtuned) to garcia who was caught deliberately cheating.
     
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    The only thing I actually hate about stuff like this, is the very high likelihood that Devin Haney uses PEDs as well.

    Unless you think naturally and without diuretics/iv it is possible to gain 25 LBS in one day and still have energy to fight and compete lol.

    Maybe not same thing as anabolic steroids, but banned cheating nonetheless that he is getting away with.
     
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    Bullshit. Haney is a SNAC athlete, victor conte would never cheat
     
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    I have to disagree with that. Legalizing PEDs in sports would only create more problems. It would force athletes to use dangerous substances just to stay competitive and it could seriously damage the integrity of boxing. The rules are there for a reason to protect the health of fighters and keep things fair.

    As for Haney he comes off looking weak in the public’s eye. The fact that he's willing to sue after every controversy could scare future opponents from wanting to fight him which hurts his marketability. People want to see champions who win definitively in the ring not ones involved in legal battles outside of it. At the end of the day everyone loves a winner not a sore loser. People wont forget that ass whooping no matter what his stupid record says.
     
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    That's all true......but .......
     
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    This, pretty much. Nobody is saying that Haney wasn't robbed or made a fool of. The issue is how does he fix that?

    Do what Cotto did. Let Ryan take a beating off somebody else, let Ryan lose his money, then arrange a rematch at a time and a place that suits you, then when Ryan is being tested every ten minutes, losing his mind on social media, get him in the ring and beat him.

    It is what it is. It's not nice but there's only one way of dealing with it. Just like Norris and Cotto, fight the guy again and get it right.

    This isn't like Gamache suing over the scales. Gamache couldn't fight again ever. So his options were limited.
     

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