Modular synths

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  1. Slice N Dice

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    Anyone here into electronic music production? I've got a few analogue synths but haven't been able to play for a while due to an ear problem. In the meantime I've been thinking about possibly building my own modular system, but I know it can end up being really expensive once you're in the rabbit hole. Anyone here tried it out?







     
  2. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

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    DO IT!

    This could be you very soon, Slicey:

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    Haha! Would love a little studio like that, big modular rack on the wall. You ever had a go at it?
     
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    Slice goes to work

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    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    No patience for learning any musical instrument.
    Bought a really nice Fender Stratocaster, 1968 CBS-replica a few years ago but really couldn´t be bothered to learn.

    My brother even loaned me his Orange 50-wt valve amp and Marshall 4x12 cabinet and even that didn´t provide any stimulus.
     
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    :Jest::Jest: Fuck yeah! :Cowboy:
     
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    Technically speaking though, the VCS3 isn't really a modular synth, and... Ok I'll stop here...:Scared:
     
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    The VCs 3 is the one Pink Floyd used on ´On The Run´:

     
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    Slice, you should get a setup like these fucks:

     
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    It is yep! It's a lovely sounding machine, a lot of the vintage synths are, unfortunately one of those will set you back something like 20 grand now.
     
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    God yeah, that'd be incredible.
     
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    £20,000?????

    You're joking?!
     
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    For that tour of English cathedrals back in mid-70s, they used (amongst other keyboards):
    PPG Kompakt synthesizer
    EMS VCS3 synthesizer
    Synthanorma Sequencer (connected to VCS 3)
    ITA Mixer (10 into 4 channels)
    Revox A77 Echo machine with WOW! Dolby noise reduction
    Moog 3P modular system (plus 960 sequential controllers/ sequencers)
    Moog 951 keyboard controller
    EMS Synthi A synthesiser
    Elka Rhapsody 610 String Synthesiser
    TFE mixer (16 into 4 channels)
    EMS Quadrophonic Effects generator
    PPG modules, inc. Moog 960 sequencers
    EMS Synthi A synthesizer
    Elka Rhapsody 610 String Synthesizer
    ARP 2600 synthesizer
    ARP 3604 controller keyboard
    Revox A77 Echo machine
     
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    I've got a ton of Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream albums but honestly I'm more into their sounds and short sequences than any of their songs...
     
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    Mad isn't it? A lot of this gear which was really affordable and a staple of any studio back in the day - Roland TB-303, Roland TR-808/909, LinnDrum etc go for thousands now.
     
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    Tunes-wise, Im more adaptabke to Jean-Michel Jarre, Tomita, Vangellis, but that's when ARP, Moog all went polyphonic, right?

    Sequential Circuits, Roland, Korg, etc soon after...
     
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    Yes that's correct, you had stuff like the Prophet-5 come out which became an industry standard.
     
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    My cousin married a guy who was a keyboard player in various bands throughout the '80s and I remember him buying a brand new Roland Júpiter 8 in about 1986...that was awesome
     
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    The Jupiter 8 is badass! Lucky bastard, does he still own it?
     
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    No idea!
    He was more into his piano/electronic pianos (had a spare 1972 Fender Rhodes in his garage for years) than anything so Im guessing he might have sold it.

    He sells Steinway pianos now...
     
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    It'd be worth a lot of money now, they're really hard to get hold of. Haven't checked the exact price but I know it would be a lot. I'm pretty sure Roland do a more affordable version from their boutique range, but it'll never match the sound of the original.

    To be fair though there are a lot of brilliant new companies which make really innovative and great sounding instruments - Arturia, Teenage Engineering, Critter & Guitari (the Organelle is by far the coolest instrument I've ever owned). Companies like Roland are still hanging on to past glories and are being left behind somewhat.
     
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    I remember when I got into Progressive Rock - the Mini Moog was used a lot - he owned one of those but sold it to get the Jupiter 8...because the Moog was so terrible to keep in-tune.
     
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    Slice - remember the Sennheiser Vocoder?

    I remember Herbie Hancock and Kraftwerk were into them earlier but then seeing Neil Young use one with a dummy/headset-mic/handheld unit in concert around '82-83 and laughing our heads off like "wtf is that??"





    He owned three of those at $30k each!


    Apparantly, Geffen Records tried to sue Neil Young for using this because it "didnt sound like Neil Young"
     
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    Haha! I do remember this! Didn't realise they cost that much though, crazy, but makes sense.

    To be honest I've always found vocoders hilarious. Sometimes they sound cool but most of the time I'm just in tears laughing. I have a Roland VT-3 which I process vocals through, rarely use it to be honest but it's quite good for atmospherics. It has a vocoder function which I've pissed about with a few times, it sounds absurd :Jest:
     
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    I don't think the unit was, but hooking it up to the dummy head-mic and iPhone-sized handset was a lot.
    (the Fairlight CMI was a ton of cash to buy at the same time)


    I still think they sound funny.
     
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    There's nothing like analog sound... it kicks the shit out of digital... that's why so much high end equipment from that era is so pricey

    The best guitar pickups I ever heard were the old Fender Wide Range humbuckers invented by Seth Lover. They were made using what is now a very rare kind of magnetic material so any vintage ones in good working order cost a ton because this kind of magnet is no longer made due to exorbitant cost of mining... they were used on Telecaster Deluxe guitars made between 1972 and 1981 (Fender trying to deal with the popularity of the Les Paul) and offered the unique combination of the humbucker noise cancellation while still allowing for the piercing crystalline high ends of a traditional Fender single coil... amazing sounding... I played one guitar that had them at a store nearly 20 years ago and they were fantastic... what's weird is that virtually every other aspect of Fender guitars in those days was shitty... the quality of the construction, all the other hardware etc ... so if somebody sells a 1974 Deluxe now for $6,000 the biggest reason for the price is the pickups! The guitar is below the standard of better eras in the company's history

    The best you can do is some impressive custom-made "sound-alike" ones made by various guys around the world but even they will tell you it's a "really close but not exact" replica

    Related more to Synths but production and audio equipment in general: Music is funny in that technological progress often has more to do with EASE of function than QUALITY of function ... ProTools produces recordings with an inferior dynamic range to some giant analog mixing console but it's a million times less expensive and a million times easier to use
     
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    Have hardly been able to play at all due to ongoing ear issues. Had another op last month which will probably put me out for another year.

    At least it gives me a chance to save up to buy this beauty... (Not a modular, semi-modular I suppose)

     

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