Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol: Who Wins?

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  1. Jesus of montreal

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    He would have beaten two top 10 p4p guys. That's much better than a few ATG. I also dont think he as good or talentend as a RJ, SPinks, Foster or even Qawi, but he'd be a sure-fire ATG (well, it has to be a decisive win)
     
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    Canelo never did anything at 175. Had the Ginger accomplished much at light heavy and Bivol whupped him, the win would mean more.

    Beter will let us know what Bivol's TRUTH worth is, and I dunno, maybe it's very high. We'll see.
     
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    Although I haven't posted much about it on here, I lived for awhile in Las Vegas and could not believe how accurately guys who sparred with tons of high level guys, but generally didn't follow boxing, could predict accurately how fights would go.

    Alot of them were high on random people doing well in random match-ups in both boxing and MMA.

    Without name dropping one of them was Lionell Thompson (there were about 3 all similar sized) who all were sure Plant would do better than he did but not enough to beat Canelo or Benavidez, and that he would wash Dirrell for example.

    This was 2019 I talked with them, and they were all pretty much uniform that Bivol would beat all of them besides Beterbiev. Of course now it is more apparent, but even back then they literally all picked Beterbiev to beat everyone under heavyweight.

    I've rolled with him since that time, but he is getting up there in age so hard to say.
     
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    Last Saturday would have been the day we saw Bivol and Beterbiev in the ring.

    Based on Bivols last performance I still think it’s a 50/50 kind of fight.
     
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    I gotta go with Bivol in this one
     
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    War is finally upon us.

     
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    best matchup of the year. this week
     
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    Leave it to Bivol to turn any fight into a snooze fest. Don’t be shocked if this one’s a total dud. Just saying.
     
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    yea bivol is solid defensively. alvarez landed a career low in punches vs him. just completely shut the guys offense down and had him landing in single digit punches almost every round.

    beterbiev is stronger than alvarez and perhaps more skilled. certainly more skilled when it comes to applying pressure.
     
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    Beter is getting old and is now injury prone, and those factors give my prediction some pause, but I'm not gonna be a pussy. I'm gonna stick to my guns with my prediction. Beter TKO 11.
     
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    Has beterbiev ever fought into the 11th round? If he gets bivol out of there I'd expect it to be sooner
     
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    I'm going with Bivol.
     
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    The winner is an absolute lock for the HOF. At this point, even the loser probably gets into the Hall, but it's a 100% lock for the winner.
     
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    I view Beterbiev as a level above Bivol.
     
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    I'm gonna say Bivol wins a decision.
     
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    I pick Bivol but I'll be rooting for Beterbiev.
     
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    Seriously? Beterbiev is the best fighter at light heavy for the last 10+ yrs, but that’s like having the biggest dick in South Korea…


    And Bivol? Canelo win is that worthy? Nah both need more world…but it’s the boxing HOF a fucking joke. So yeah they will get a n…
     
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    If beterbiev loses decisively I don't view his resume as hof. Who are the top 3 guys he beat?
     
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    So bivol is slight favorite?
     
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    Correct
     
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    I think Bivol will win wide.
     
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    Beterbiev will break him down, late stoppage or wide decision after a couple of KDs
     
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    Yeah. The hof criteria for getting in are low but not low enough that you get in by beating Gvozdyk and Marcuse Browne, especially so of you're not a popular fighter
     
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    Bivol will win
    Too technical
     
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    ^^^This….Bivol looked like Neo in his Canelo fight…but against guys his own size he gets hit quite a bit, but his combination punching, movement, determination wins him the day. Beterbiev is going to be a wall of determination, punching power…can Bivol survive?
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Beterbiev by KO 9
     

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