Navarrete's nickname. I feel Valero was overrated, but I'd take him over Navarrete by stoppage. Nav's defense is too piss poor, and Valero had more firepower than Nav's other opponents.
Valero was overrated in life and even more overrated in death but Navarette looks fat and totally disinterested. Valero was all about boxing.
Vaquero is a strange nickname for a Mexico City fighter. I thought he looked fat (technically skinny-fat) for the first Valdez fight. He just has one of those Mungia bodies. A spare tire but skinny.
If you're not muscular per se a d you drop weight fast (I mean 2,3lb a week ) you get that look. The worse I ever saw was Erik Morales whose arms had gone skinny and his belly was extended by beer and he had love handles.
Mexicans are mestizos. A mix of Spaniard & Indegenous people. This won't be politically correct but the Native tribes of America & Mexico are not exactly known for their physiques. They often have awkward looking bodies even when they're in shape. Skinny ass arms and legs and thick in the middle. Navarrete & Morales are probably at least 75% Native. No body hair. They shave like twice a month. Awkward bodies. Guys like JM Marquez & the late Johnny Tapia look mostly Spanish. Their features. Hairy chest. If they don't shave for a day. They have a 5 O'clock shadow..
I'm glad that people are finally coming around on Navarrette. I said from DAY ONE that he's a bang average fighter. Valero was no second coming of Duran or anything, but he was a fuck of a lot more talented than Navarrette.
Last thread, you were the only guy who spelled his name right. But now you fucked it up several times.