Will September decide the greatest fighter of this generation?

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    The answer to my question was yes. Bud is undoubtedly the greatest fighter of this generation. Even if you asked Usyk, he'd say Crawford. Bivol would too.
     
  2. Neil

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    Crawford and usyk seem to have respect for each other and have both said the other was the best

    I saw some headline on a YouTube video claiming bivol picked Alvarez but when I went to watch it was some other idiot talking, so can't verify if thats accurate
     
  3. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    If Crawford retires now, is he the first undefeated ATG who has no controversial or contentious win?

    Also, it really show how shitty boxing have become that retiring undefeated has became a pretty common occurrence.....
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    In other words, no, Bud is not Castillo's son and he would never go life and death with Maidana.
     
  5. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I dont really get what you mean by that (bar that its a reference to pbf)
     
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    Nah, Marciano's record seems to be legit.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Wasn't the first LaStarza fight somewhat controversial?
     
  8. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Yes indeed.

    And ive heard that the first Charles fight was a bit contentious
     
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    Marciano’s first fight with Ted Lowry is said to be a controversial decision.
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Since they are more humble than Crawford, we should penalize them in their historical ranking. Got it
     
  11. winner by choke

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    feel like if you gave crawford castillo x 2, corrales, judah, mosely, pacquiao, undefeated hatton, de la hoya he would probably have a few losses.

    the guy was even after what 8 or 9 rounds to a faded shawn porter? won 7-5 maybe 8-4 vs madrimov (who ortiz TKOd). and then beat canelo (less convincingly than bivol or mayweather).

    crawford is an obvious all time great, but i dont think his 0 means as much just due to the fact that his competition was subpar by ATG standards.. not his fault...he was frozen out of his prime and probably wouldve beat everybody they put in front of him.
     
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    Ortiz beat madrimov by decision
     
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    winner by choke Undisputed Champion

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    my mistake! someone corrected me on that a few weeks ago, yet somehow thats how i remember it. maybe ill give it a rewatch.

    still beat him more decisively :).
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    I attended that fight but the venue sux so my vantage point wasn't great. Seemed close-ish maybe 7 to 5 for crawford. Watching on tv i had him winning wider, at least 9 to 3
     

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