Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Erickson Lubin

Vegas back on the boxing map if it happens there in the first quarter of next year. Cant miss fight. Worst case scenario is an early ko but someone's goin out on their back

 

Watch the fight gets booked for Saudi

 

Tooooo Many Prime RJ Mannerisms...



REED

 

agREED...

There Is No "A-Side" Here...Neither Is a PROVEN Draw Outside of Where They Reside....Hopefully Negotiations Are PUBLIC, Because This Definitely Has 50/50 Written All Over it, As You Stated...



REED

 

Split shouldn't be an issue since neither is a draw anywhere outside of their homebase

Location could he a factor so a neutral venue makes the most sense

The key factor is both want it. Ortiz is a real fighter and I truly believe he wants it even though his team may not

Question for reed, if they wanna do a smaller scale fight in forth worth do they put it in the ben Davis pavilion ?

 

Vergil looked very good tonight. All credit to him.

I'll still take Ennis by late stoppage.

 

It’s gonna be a good fight. I expect fireworks. I lean towards Ennis but I think Vergil is live.

 

Can't really judge him against Lubin. Lubin is awful. Just goes to the ropes with no head movement. Rarely see black guys with zero head movement like that. He reminds me of Ohara Davies. Obviously hes nowhere near as bad as that bum but hes not too far off. Just a terrible fighter. I think he's been hurt in every fight I've watched of his.

 

Hopefully 2026 delivers on what looks to be a promising year for the sport. We got Shakur vs Teo and Boots vs Vergil coming up in the early part of the year. Hopefully we can get Bivol vs Benavidez as well.

 

Ben Davis Pavilion?


REED

 

Ortiz says he prefers a spence fight next

His snake manager mirigian says he needs at least 10mil to fight ennis

 

REED Doubts EJ is Dumb or Desperate Enough to Think Vergil Ortiz is a SMART Comeback Fight @ This Stage of His Career...

REED's Been Out of the EJ Loop for a Minute Now, But the Fact He's Fought NO ONE Since Bud & Only Had a Semi-Serious Negotiation w/Fundara, Tells REED He's DONE Fighting...

Dude is Surrounded by People Who Genuinely LOVE Him (Now) and He's Taken Care of His Paper...

REED Thinks EJ Could Only MINIMALLY Improve Upon his Career Exploits - BEST Case Scenario...If He's LUCKY, He Somehow Wins a Title @ '54...But Considering the GAUNTLET '54 Has Become, Even 1 Super Welter Title is HIGHLY Doubtful, Basically Impossible for Spence @ This Point...The Night Life, the Accident, the Inactivity and the Thrashing from Bud ALL Took a Toll...

The EJ From the Brook, Porter, Peterson Fights, Even the Ugas Version of EJ Are All GONE...That Ship Has SAILED...

Worst Case Scenario - EJ Gets Beat Down By a Young, Motivated Vergil, Hungry to Settle Some Dallas Area Gym "Beef", Which Only Fuuuuuurther DIMINISHES Spence's Career Exploits and Legacy...If Spence Ever Fights Verg, It Should Only Come AFTER a Tune-Up...

Let Boots and Verg Beat Each Other Up 1st...




REED

 

It'd be a disgrace if that fight gets made. Spence would be obliterated inside of 3 or 4.

 

Is it me or did Ennis and Hearn not say definitively before the fight that Ortiz vs. Ennis would be next?

 

huh? what? When did Ortiz said that? He was just face to face w/ Boots...and looked like he wanted TODO EL HUMO.

 

In Verg's Defense, All He REALLY Said Was His "Dream Fight" was Spence...

DeLa and Verg's Manager Are the One's Running Wild w/Spence and "$10mil to Fight Boots" Talk...Verg Sr. Even Questioned "What Does a Boots Fight Do for Us?", the Day Prior to Lubin...REED Thinks (Hopes, PRAYS) Team Ortiz is Just POSTURING for "A-Side" Treatment...The Shit is LAME, But This is Boxing...Lame Shit Happens....

Verg is a PRIDEFUL Ass Dude Though, and After Seeing the BACKLASH Boots Endured for Ducking Him, REED Doubts Dude Sits Back and WILLINGLY Ducks Boots in Return...He'll Allow His Peeps to Talk that "A-Side" Shit to a Point, But Once His Image Starts Taking a BIG Enough Hit, REED Fully Expects Verg to Hush His Team and Get the Boots Bout Signed...




REED

 

I can’t see Errol coming back. He’s done full stop. If the Boots fight doesn’t get made, it’s not gonna be Errol replacing him, imo.


I’m thinking the fight gets made. Both guys need this fight. Whomever wins, it will be their official coming out party and will establish himself as THE MAN at 154 lbs.

 

Yeah EJ is clearly done. Crawford beat the spirit out of him. No interest in seeing against a top guy unless he beats a few credible guys before, and looks good doing so

 

Thankfully, looks like we won't see Ortiz-Spence (I dont think Spence is coming back tbh).

Per Fat Dan, Ortiz-Ennis is in the works for March 28.