Went out clubbing on sunday night, and I met GSP, seemed like a rerally cool guy, doesn't have a big head at all,. I must admit that looking at him, I would think that I could take him , sometime, apparences doesn't mean anything, as I would get torn apart in 30 sec by him.
I've heard he's a really level headed guy, very appreciative of his fans..... my favorite fighter in the sport
i actually think he can dominate hughes this time around...he just cant get to excited and get caught with something stupid
He won't be able to keep it standing the whole fight. Hughes will get him down at some point and at that point the fight is basically over.
uhh....yeah, just GSP is a slouch on the ground Hughes is better, but to say it would be "over" just because it goes to the ground is a little far
What happened in the first fight? Hughes shocked EVERYONE by subbing GSP. That won't happene again and up until that freak occurence, GSP was dominating Matt Hughes. I think GSP will stop Hughes in about 2 rounds.
Hughes was losing the fight on the ground and pulled that armbar out of his ass. I don't know where Hughes wins the fight. He's not as good on the ground...not as good on his feet. He MIGHT be better in bed, but we'll have to wait and ask Hooks' old lady what she thinks about that one.
... That's not how I remember the fight :nixweiss: I remember Pierre dominating on his feet, getting taken down and Hughes subbed him. How was Hughes losing on the ground? :nixweiss:
doesnt mean that Hughes dominated on the ground....you're acting like GSP is strictly stand up, when he dominated a BJJ freak in Mayhem on the ground
True. But Hughes is about 2 1/2 times stronger than Mayhem. Mayhem is good but he's not physically powerful at all. GSP was overpowering him. Hughes on the other hand has ape strength. I'm really looking forward to their rematch.
Hughes will kick his ass again. :holla: BTW, why don't you post much anymore, Hanzy? Did you get tired of all the drama?
Nah, too much time spent on a dull board. No action on here. Gotta move on in life gatti.:wavegoodbye: Frequenting a board for 8-10 hours a day has no rewards, only stress. I'm taking a freelancing opportunity. Rather do some work and make money rather than talk about a sport which is hardly delivering greatly anticipated fights. There are no stars left in the sport, and those who are coming up are rubbish. I could care less about waiting around for what DLH is going to do next, and these joke fights Mayweather is taking, or the career progession of Chavez Jr, or Rahman's title fight with Maskaev. No Thanks! Anyway, did you find a good job gatti?
Damnit you took my response. I was going to say that Pierre is much stronger than Miller on the ground and overpowered him at times. He don't have the same luxury against Hughes.
I think from a technical standpoint Hughes may be SLIGHTLY better, if better at all, but GSP is so much quicker that its pretty much a push on the ground....strength wise, its like comparing an ox to a bull
Straight up, Hughes is NOT better than GSP on the ground. Stronger? Yes. More experienced? Yes. But thats it. Hughes isn't technically gifted on the ground at all. He's simply a bullshit strong wrestler with a little bit of survival skills. He's been subbed a tonne of times by better grapplers than he is. He relies almost entirely on his strength to escape submissions....rather than use good technique to avoid them in the first place. GSP will beat him and beat him quite badly. Alot of people will be suprised.
Agreed with From the Ashes. Hughes benefits from being very strong in his weight class. A guy like him would get raped if he ever stepped up in weight class where his strength would be nullified. He'd have to outskill the bigger guys and he could never do that.
:nono: No, it's Bret 'Hitman' Hart. 5 time WWF champion, 2 time Intercontinental champion, 2 time WWF tag team champion, former WCW heavyweight champion, former WCW U.S champion. former WCW tag team champion, 1993 King of the Ring winner, 1994 Royal Rumble winner, inducted into 2006 wrestling Hall of Fame, participant in 3 of Pro Wrestling Illustrated's Match of the Year in 92, 96 and 97, etc, etc, etc.
Rather than talking about a sport that has a predetermined end to its "matches", try talking about a real sport! :nono:
Wayne Gretzky Official Records Regular Season Records (40) Most goals: 894 in 1,487 games Most goals, including playoffs: 1,016 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games Most goals, one season: 92 in 1981-82, 80-game schedule Most goals, one season, including playoffs: 100 in 1983-84, 87 goals in 74 regular season games and 13 goals in 19 playoff games Most goals, 50 games from start of season: 61 in 1981-82 (Oct. 7, 1981 to Jan. 22, 1982, 80-game schedule) and 1983-84 (Oct. 5, 1983 to Jan. 25, 1984), 80-game schedule Most goals, one period: 4 (Tied with 10 other players) Feb. 18, 1981 Most assists: 1,963 Most assists, including playoffs: 2,223 Most assists, one season: 163 in 1985-86, 80-game schedule Most assists, one season, including playoffs: 174 in 1985-86, 163 assists in 80 regular season games and 11 assists in 10 playoff games Most assists, one game: 7 (tied with Billy Taylor) done three times -- Feb. 15, 1980; Dec. 11, 1985; Feb. 14, 1986 Most assists, one road game: 7 (tied with Billy Taylor) Dec. 11, 1985. Most points: 2,857 in 1,485 games (894 goals, 1,963 assists) Most points, including playoffs: 3,239 in 1,485 regular season and 208 playoff games. (1016 goals, 2223 assists) Most points, one season: 215 in 1985-86, 80-game schedule (52 goals, 163 assists) Most points, one season, including playoffs: 255 in 1984-85; 208 points in 80 regular season games and 47 points in 18 playoff games Most overtime assists, career: 15 Most goals by a centre, career: 894 Most goals by a centre, one season: 92 in 1981-82, 80-game schedule Most assists by a centre, career: 1,963 Most assists by a centre, one season: 163 in 1985-86, 80-game schedule Most points by a centre, career: 2,856 Most points by a centre, one season: 215 in 1985-86, 80-game schedule Most assists in one game by a player in his first season: 7 on Feb. 15, 1980 Highest goals-per-game average, one season: 1.18 in 1983-84, 87 goals in 74 games Highest assists-per-game average, career (300 min.): 1.321 -- 1,963 assists in 1,485 games Highest assists-per-game average, one season: 2.04 in 1985-86, 163 assists in 80 games Highest points-per-game average, one season (among players with 50-or-more points): 2.77 in 1983-84, 205 points in 74 games Most 40-or-more goal season: 12 in 20 seasons Most consecutive 40-or-more goal season: 12 from 1979-80 to 1990-91 Most 50-or-more goal seasons: 9 (tied with Mike Bossy) Most 60-or-more goal seasons: 5 (tied with Mike Bossy) Most consecutive 60-or-more goals seasons: 4 from 1981-82 to 1984-85 Most 100-or-more point seasons: 15 Most consecutive 100-or-more point seasons: 13 from 1979-80 to 1991-92 Most three-or-more goal games, career: 50 -- 37 three-goal (hat trick) games; nine four-goal games; four five-goal games Most three goal games, one season: 10 (done twice) in 1981-82 and 1983-84 Longest consecutive assist scoring streak: 23 games in 1990-91, 48 assists Longest consecutive point-scoring streak: 51 Games in 1983-84 (Oct. 5, 1983 to Jan. 28, 1984, 61goals, 92 assists for 153 points) Longest consecutive point-scoring streak from start of season: 51 in 1983-84; 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points (Oct. 5, 1983 to Jan. 28, 1984) Playoff Records (15) Most playoff goals, career: 122 Most playoff assists, career: 260 Most assists, one playoff year: 31 in 1988 (19 games) Most assists in one series (other than final): 14 (tied with Rick Middleton) in 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago) Most assists in final series: 10 in 1988 (four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston) Most assists, one playoff game: 6 (tied with Mikko Leinonen) on April 9, 1987 Most assists, one playoff period: 3 -- Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions. Gretzky has had three assists in one period five times. Most points, career: 382 -- 122 goals and 260 assists Most points, one playoff year: 47 in 1985 (17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games) Most points in final series: 13 in 1988 three goals and 10 assists (four games plus suspended game vs. Boston, three goals) Most points, one playoff period: 4 (tied with nine other players) Most short-handed goals, one playoff year: 3 (tied with five other players) 1983 Most short-handed goals, one playoff game: 2 (tied with eight other players) April 6, 1983 Most game winning goals in playoffs, career: 24 Most three-or-more goals games (hat trick): 10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games)
All-Star Records (6) Most All-Star game goals: 13 (in 18 games played) Most All-Star game goals, one game: 4 (tied with three players) 1983 Campbell Conference Most All-Star game goals, one period: 4 1983 Campbell Conference, third period Most All-Star game assists, career: 12 (tied with four players) Most All-Star game points, career: 25 (13 goals, 12 assists in 18 games) Most All-Star game points, one period: 4 (tied with Mike Gartner and Adam Oates) 1983 Campbell Conference, third period (four goals) Records Update Since Wayne Gretzky’s retirement, two of his records have fallen and he has gained one record, leaving him with a new total of 60 official records. Gretzky’s record of 15 regular season overtime assists has now been passed by three players. They are Nicklas Lidstrom (16), Adam Oates (17), and Mark Messier (18). Both Ray Bourque (13) and Mark Messier (14) have passed Gretzky’s record (12) for most All-star game assists. Wayne Gretzky finished his career with a 1.921 points per game average. Only Mario Lemieux, then retired, had a better points per game average at that time. Lemieux since came out of retirement in 2000 and played until the 2005-06 NHL season. Mario's points per game average has dropped to 1.883 before retiring once again midway through the 2005-2006 season. This gives the record back to Gretzky. Unofficial Records Along with his numerous official records, Wayne Gretzky also has many "unofficial" records. These other records are in fact records but have not found their way into the official record book (yet). Youngest player to score 50 goals in a season (19 years, two months). Most points by an NHL player in his first year: 137. He was not considered a rookie in his first year, so the rookie record belongs to Teemu Selanne with 132. Most assists by an NHL player in his first year: 86. The rookie record is co-held by Peter Stastny and Joe Juneau with 70 assists. Note that the record book gives Gretzky the record for most assists and points in a game as a first year player, but not the season totals. Most 200 point seasons: 4. The NHL has a record for most 100 point seasons (owned by Gretzky), but not most 200 point seasons, probably because Gretzky is the only one who has scored 200 points. Most consecutive 200 point seasons: 3. Most 70 goal seasons: 4. The NHL has a record for most 60 goal seasons, but not 70. This is strange because many players have achieved 70 goals. Brett Hull has scored 70 goals three times. Most consecutive 70 goal seasons: 4. Most 80 goal seasons: 2. Most 90 goal seasons: 1. As with 200 point seasons, Gretzky is the only player to achieve this. Fastest 50 goals: 50 goals in 39 games. It is surprising that this isn’t an official record because time and time again, this record is labelled as the most difficult one to break of all of Gretzky’s records. The NHL has an official record for the most goals in 50 games, but not the fastest 50 goals. Fastest 100 points: 34 games in 1983-84. Most seasons averaging over 2 points a game: 10. Mario Lemieux did it six times. Most 100 assist seasons: 11. Most consecutive 100 assist seasons: 11. Most NHL & WHA regular season assists: 2,027. Most NHL & WHA regular season points: 2,967. Most NHL & WHA regular season and playoff goals: 1,072 (one more than Gordie Howe). Most NHL & WHA regular season and playoff assists: 2,297. Most NHL & WHA regular season and playoff points: 3,369. Most MVP awards (Hart Trophy): 9. Most scoring championships (Art Ross Trophy): 10. Largest margin of victory in the scoring race: 79 (in 1983-84) Most seasons where he was his team's leading scorer: 19 Most official NHL records: 61 on retirement, 60 at present These are just some of Gretzky’s "unofficial" scoring records. He also has "milestone" records: Fastest 200 goals (242 games) Fastest 500 goals (575 games) Fastest 600 goals (718 games, one less than Lemieux) Fastest 700 goals (886 games) Fastest 1000 points (424 games) Etc. Gretzky holds virtually all of those "fastest" milestones.
But unfortunately, Grets doesn't have the illustrious "Pro Wrestling's Most Exciting Wrestling Match Award" in his trophy case yet, so you may be onto something there! :jester:
just a clarification, my post was not saying Hughes JJ is better than GSP's, thats rediculous....But take into account ground strikes and wrestling, and then its an argueable point... Hughes is a good wrestler and not based purely on strength...He's a better wrestler than GSP... Strikes on the ground, GSP is much better, but Hughes wrestling works in well here. Hallman x 2 BJ Penn Carlos Newton (yeah, Newton had him) all quicker, much more technical guys than Hughes....GSP needs to take a page from that playbook and avoind playing the test of strength game with Matt. Not saying Georges couldnt win that game, just saying Matt probably couldnt win the other game