Naseem Hamed vs. Manny Pacquiao @ 126

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  1. Erratic

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    Hamed was a big puncher with very awkward angles and good reflexes, while Manny was more active, probably a little quicker, more relentless. They both have their defensive liabilities. Pacquiao's punch resistance got better as he moved up and wasn't troubled by making weight. Hamed had some flash knockdowns that seemed to be from balance issues. While his chin appeared to be pretty good, he also went into a bit of a shell against MAB.

    Who wins?

    I make Pac the favorite.
     
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    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Pac is about twice as fast as MAB and MAB was landing at will. Pac by destruction.
     
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    Barrera only fought against a shell of what Hamed used to be. Back in the 1990s, Pacquiao was an incredible defensive fighter, but he had one HUGE whole in his gameplan: fighting on the inside. He's somewhat corrected this by becoming more offensive minded, but Hamed's power would probably stop Pacquiao by six.
     
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    Pac was a defensive fighter? I saw some of his earlier fights and idont think he was a gret def. fighter, but back then there are fights where he actually just boxed his opponents.
     
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    Pacquiao by highlight reel ktfo in 7, possibly both getting dropped/hurt along the way
     
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    Hamed was a shell of an earlier version...why was that?

    MAB just thought the punk a lesson,
    PACMAN would destroy Hamed.
     
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    Exhibit A - the Sanchez fight.
    Exhibit B - the Calvo fight.

    Hamed reeked of egg by the time he fought Barrera. The dude wasn't even training properly.:shit:
     
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    Augies chin is tailor made for hamed...
     
  9. TKO

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    wasn't calvo his last fight...:dunno:

    The prince was entertaing but showed no courage in finishing his career the way he did. As soon as things got though he baled out.

    He wasnt a shell before MAB but he was after !
     
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    He got slapped around by Augie Sanchez as well though. He was being hit with almost every shot and only Sanchez' weak chin saved him. His face was as much a mess after that fight as after the Barrera fight. Hamed's reflex' were gone, his style completely changed and he wasn't training properly. So in both his previous and subsequent fights Naz looked just as shitty as Barrera made him look...'Ergo' Naz was in heavy decline when he fought Barrera - simple as that,imo. :)
     
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    Agreed. Barrera might well have beaten any version of the Prince but Hamed surely seemed like he was on downslide.
     
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    What year? When I was living in the Philippines almost a decade ago, he was being billed as a defensive artist with a punch.
     
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    Hamed was better in the mid to late 90s than he was around the time he fought Barrera.

    His reflexes weren't as sharp, and this was someone who relied on them a lot since his style was so awkward and he broke so many rules. He also was pretty lazy in training.

    Even the version of Hamed that Barrera schooled would be a live underdog against Pac, IMO, because of styles. Pacquiao is very aggressive and open. Barrera was cautious and respectful.
     
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    "Prime" Hamed is a myth! Who the fuck did he beat in his "prime"? Tom Johnson? The first fighter Naz ever fought him hit him back was Kevin Kelly, who pushed him to the limit. Too bad Kelly had a shit chin. Pacman would have destoyed ANY version of Hamed. Naz would have never gotten off any of his bombs, cause he'd be in full retreat mode from round one on. His reflexes also dont mean shit, because Manny's hands are too fast for Naz to have avoided his straight left. It would have been a mismatch IMO. Pac would have wiped his ass with Hamed! Yes, even the Ingle trained "prime" Hamed.
     
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    I agree Naz's record was always questionable in my view
     
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    This is disgusting that Pac is even being compared to the fraud Naseem .. :nono:
     
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    :clap: :clap:
     
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    "Prime" Hamed got dropped and put on queer street by old ass, burnt out Kevin Kelly.

    Pacquiao would destroy Hamed, it would be like an execution. :cool:
     
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    That's the dumbest thing you've said in weeks. Barrera was far past his prime when he fought Kelley. I doubt you've ever seen him at 122, except perhaps on Youtube.
     
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    I think your brain damage is manifesting itself again in your post.:lol:

    Who was talking about Barrera? :dunno:
     
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    Pacman by destruction. Haveeb is a fraud, always was. The first prime, world class fighter he faced just hammered him, dominated him, and humiliated him. Just like myself and anyone else who knows boxing predicted.

    Then after that 1 loss, space monkey took the money and ran. He knew he was found out, he wanted no part of a rematch, or any other world class fighter.

    Pacman KO 3, haveeb would be out of his depth and demolished.
     
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    That was the most telling part. After MAB destroyed him, it was like "the jig was up" and Haveeb closed shop and ran with his money. That's what you call exposed.:lol:
     
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    All this at the ripe old age of 27 years old while still fighting in his normal prime weight class .... :lol: :lol:
     
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    Manny now vs the best version of Hamed...

    A damn good fight.

    I think Manny wins 8 out of 10 fights by outworking Hamed and forces him to quit.

    The other two times, I see Manny walking into a straight left hand then going night night.

    Outside of landing a bomb, Hamed doesn't have anything to keep Manny at bay. In fact, Manny would be much taller than Hamed. Isn't Hamed something like 5' 2' and Manny's 5'6'?

    Today's version of Manny eats Hamed alive in the majority of their encounters.
     
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    Willie Pep lost the World Featherweight Championship for the last time when he was 26. Very few featherweights are at the top of their game into their late 20s. We just happen to be living in an era where there are a few 126-pounders with a little longevity, that's all.
     
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    That's a stupid generalization.

    A lot of prime featherweight champs end up moving away from 126 into higher weight classes. Sometimes featherweight champs in their late 20s are coming up from Batamweight or flyweight. BTW Barrera was #1 at 126 well into his late 20s.

    The reason Haveeb looked like such crap in his later career was because he stopped fighting absolute crap like Daniel Alicea. Any other explaination is just being a Haveeb scrotum licker.

    Were you born stupid?
     
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    Exactly it is just a natural progression for a lot of fighters.

    BTW, I wouldn’t insult PACMAN by comparing him to NAZ, NAZ was entertaining and had an explosive punch but you have to take into account the level of opposition.
     
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    Not many people hit harder than Pacquiao at 126... but Hamed was one of them, and he was about a level above Pacquiao in terms punching power.

    Pacquiao doesn't fight like MAB. He's not going to box and counter with disipline for 12 rounds. The way I see it... Pacquiao is good early, he'll probably even drop Naz. Hamed eventually catches Pacquiao while he's being inconsistent and hurts him bad. Hamed by stoppage before the 9th round.
     
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    :nono: Naz only had extreme punching power Vs. the bum of the month ..
    Allot of boxers KO these type of bums ...
    Go look down the record of any decent boxer and you will see a long string of early KO's attributed to their opposition ..
    His power is overated ... I doubt he even hit as hard as Pac.

    Naz CAN NOT be put in the same catagory as Pac ....
     
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    Hamed could definitely crack.

    Even iron-chinned Wayne McCullough commented on how hard Hamed hit.

    "When Hamed hits you, you feel it in your spine"
     

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