If Oscar DOMINATES Floyd,.........

Double, what are you talking about exactly? Where did you see fear in his eyes?

And by the way reed, whether this is true or not, your over the top 3 rolling around laughing smilies means your nervous for this fight. You get nervous for your favourite fighters. ::

In all seriousness REED, I know you're picking Floyd, but objectively, what chance are you giving Oscar?

If this fight is NOT fixed, the chance I give floyd is to pot shot all night and simply outrun and outmanoeuvre oscar. Unless he is constantly moving, I think oscar takes him out.

 

Maybe. But fear can be healthy if used properly. I saw a little fear in PBF's eyes in some pre-Gatti and pre-Corrales interviews as well, believe it or not.

Nigel Benn was fearful of both Barkley and McClellan, and look what happened to them. It means that Floyd isn't taking Oscar lightly...which is great.

IMO...Oscar seems a little too confident. Let's see how he handles it when things aren't as simple as he expects...

 

I don't know about REED, but I'm a huge mayweather fan as well (as is well documented) and I'm as nervous as hell!

This is definitely no gimme fight for Floyd.

 

i'm talking specifically about talk with Brian Kenney. in large part, he shed his facade during the interview. and as a result, it was apparent in his voice and in his eyes that he has doubts and fears. and i don't blame him. he's never faced anyone remotely as formidable as ODH. Castillo is a damn good fighter but not nearly as quick as ODH and not as big either. i found it funny considering he said ODH was already beaten mentally. if anyone's defeated mentally imo it's PBF.

 

dsimon writes:

Sly the truth is that Floyd has, perhaps in an effort to promote the fight, written a big cash with his ass. He probably is settling down to the reality of what has to actually happen now.

Oscar did spook Mayorga. It was pathetic. I had picked Mayorga but knew at the press conference that Mayorga was going to get spanked.

I think that guys like Mayorga and Floyd have a lot to live up to because of being brash. It is one extra burden for Floyd to carry. I still think he is good enough to get by Oscar for the first five rounds which is what he needs to do.

 

I don't think Mayorga was 'spooked' by Oscar..Mayorga was more spooked by the confusion around him being screwed financially, not in the best of shape or having the right preparation for a fight of that magnitude, out of his ideal weight, and he also was probably a bit spooked that most everyone thought he was being fed to the meatgrinder...which, in fact, turned out to be true

 

If Floyd makes it to the 6th round, he wins. Floyd trash talks everyone and always backs it up in the ring. Honestly...he seemed a little nervous in some of the interviews prior to the Gatti fight...but in the end it didn't make the slightest bit of difference.

I'm not worried about Floyd's temperament, and the effect it may or may not have...I'm merely concerned with the task at had:

Beating the tall, fast, bigger, rangier and more experienced De La Hoya.

I would hate this to be the Hopkins/Tito of 2007, where the naturally larger and more experienced fighter beats the favoured smaller fighter moving up.

 

I think Floyd is nervous....maybe a little fear too. It doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad thing, it's just how fighters handle it.

I think a lot of fighters are way more nervous before a big fight than they let off.

 

How much help in the form of SUPPORT and I don't mean just from a sparring standpoint, but friendship and partnership, will come from Hopkins and Mosley?

Do they deserve any CREDIT in a possible Oscar victory?

 

I honestly didnt' see fear in either one of these guys. I think Floyd knows it's time to focus and get ready. He can't spent the whole time trash talking and acting like a clowns. He knows what he has to do.

I am sure tomorrow night at the weigh in we will see the cocky Floyd again getting on Oscar's face.:laughing:

If Floyd has any chance of freezing because of the size of the event it might happen at the beginning of the fight with God knows how many people cheering for Oscar, the national anthems. All that shit!

I really don't think it will happen I think Floyd has been hoping to be part of something this big. But if it did happen it would show early in the beginning of the fight but he would eventually shake it off.

 

That's why he's scared Latinking,..that's why he does nothing but talk and swivel his head around, if he kept still and maintained his focus on the subject of his fear, his face would be like a smoothe bedsheet being gently crinkled, the nerves would rise to the surface on a face that isn't being wriggled around like a racket-drum. :nono: Don't be a fool to think the way he wants you to, Thomas...with this 'In yo face' facade.

 

dsimon writes:

makes sense. he was spooked and knowing crow pie was on the menu before the fight started was painful.

 

Statutory Rape......means you had sex with a girl who consented but was too young.

Thats hardly the greatest fucking sin on earth.

Is he consented, wasn't hurt, enjoyed it, isn't upset, would do it again etc....then what the fuck?

Since when did the upstanding black man like you give a fuck about White mans law?

Mann Act, anyone????

 

Dear God, if its isn't double L saying that he'd rather have a dude rape his daughter rather than beat her and now sex with a minor is trivialised...there are some sick pups on this board I reckon :doh:

 

i didn't say that tiger dick. what i said was, "I'd rather have my daughter be the victim of statutory rape than be beaten." You left the part out about statutory, probably because if you hadn't, you wouldn't have had a point to make. Most people, when they don't have a point to make, don't attempt to make one. You, for some reason, didn't let that stop you. and consequently, we're faced with the above distortion.

how is that not a reasonable statement? which would you rather your daughter be subject to? keeping in mind that statutory rape implies consent on the part of the victim, even if she's not old enough to know what she's doing?

 

Is that why Oscar has been training his ass off harder than ever before, staff? He obviously sees Floyd as a worthy challenger. Just because he's not acting scared sh*tless in front of cameras doesn't mean he expects things to be simple. He's the underdog afterall.::

 

Statutory rape does not imply consent jackass. If you implied it, thats a different matter. I still think its a fucked up statement, regardless, and that consequently you're a bit of a twisted fucko (sorry mods). Just an opinion :dunno:

 

He's not the underdog in his mind though, Kamaldeep, which is my point. He figures Floyd to be a smaller fighter with no power in an alien division and expects to beat him up. Also, Oscar always says he's training his ass off...no fighter comes into a big fight saying that they are in bad shape.

In any event, this is all irrelevant, I'm sure that Oscar is expecting Floyd to be a worthy challenge and as such I'm sure he's prepared...but he may be surprised, as most will be, when Floyd actually manages to hurt him and stand up to his punches.

 

I guess we'll see about that, Tyrique.::

 

how so? are you saying you'd rather your daughter be beaten than statutorily raped? and when i say it implies consent, the point i'm making is that it's not a violent act. it's not a violent crime. and it's not. if it were, it would simply be called, "rape." not statutory rape. i think you're having trouble making that distinction. note that i'm not excusing or trivialising statutory rape. it's an evil act. the point i'm making is that between it and assault, it is the lesser crime.

the fact that you'd apparently rather see your daughter beaten than statutorily raped makes YOU the sicko in my mind.

 

Indeed, Sukvinder...we shall see.

 

Honestly....I don't see the point of this little discussion between you and Salaco. But I will say...yes, Statutory rape suggests that the woman (girl) consented. Of course...one can argue that a younger person cannot consent to sex...but we all know that if it was non-consentual sex it would be just called RAPE...period.

 

dsimon writes:

Sly is a rice and pea not a collard green with a ham hock in it!!:: ::

 

I agree...statutory rape doesn't imply intent.

The whole point of statutory rape means the individual isn't old enough TO consent. Meaning, if the individual wanted to have sex, it means nada.

 

Oscar has been over the hill for at least the past several years, IMO.
If you want to lose money, bet on Oscar to win.

 

I'm disappointed Karl...

You know the correct phrase is...

"If you wanna lose your money, be a fool and bet on Sonny!"

ld:

 

I hope you never end up in the courts over these matters matlock, you've mad a number of rather naive statements, which are easily interpreted in the worst possible fashion as I have done here. May would argue that statutory rape is very much a violent crime insofar that it still relies on coercion of a different and arguably not lesser sort. Anyway, the reason I would suggest you should be tagged and put on some kind of register is that you, in an attempt to trivialise stautory rape, you try to minimise it by contrasting it with grievous bodily harm (as Floyd has allegedly committed) as if it somehow makes it less disgusting. I find it kind of staggering, but hey..

 

you're apparently so concerned with demonstrating your moral superiority by telling me what a scum-bag i am, that you've over-looked completely the point i was trying to make.

i've said nothing to try to diminish the seriousness of statutory rape. and i think it is a serious crime. and nothing i've said (despite your efforts to imply otherwise) suggest that i have.

in three responses to my posts, you've not once addressed the point i did made. instead, you've addressed things i didn't say. i'm starting to doubt your reading comprehension.

 

No...in a nutshell, that's primarily why I posted in the first place. Everything else was relevant but incidental. Glad to see your comprehension skills are reasonably intact, scumbag.

 

so you're "not" interested in what i actually wrote. oh, okay.