Ok, enough BS, Time to discuss Floyd vs Shane at 147lbs

Alot of people think that Shane would beat Floyd. I just don't see it...BUT it's a very interesting fight nonetheless.

Two FAST, slick dudes in there, around the same size, both good body punchers, both with alot of heart, toughness.

Shane has a slight edge in power (YES...it's only slight), chins are about even from the looks of it, Shane may have faster hands in flurries...but Floyd is quicker at capitalizing on openings (reflexes) and so may appear faster.

I give Floyd the edge in stamina, movement, ring generalship, elusiveness and jab...

Shane is a more powerful body puncher, but Floyd is more accurate with body punches.

Would be an exciting fight, especially in the first couple of rounds...when Shane is still very fast and slick.

I just think that after 6 rounds or so it'll become a potshotting clinic for Floyd, when Shane becomes stationary (think Wilfredo Rivera) and looks to load up on one punch at a time.


Floyd, UD..116-112

 

Floyd wins big on points, and the fight would be very similar to last night.

 

What people don't realize is that Mayweather has a nearly singular style of boxing. Traditionally, fighters who box on the outside rely on the jab, but Mayweather boxes on the outside using power shots as leads, and he doesn't use them in combinations. What makes him dangerous is that he has a lot more in his arsenal than that. Shane Mosley? He has one trick, and Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright have already laid the blueprint on how to beat him.

 

The Deal Is,Floyd HIMSELF is TROUBLED by "Speedy" Fighters...

Even Last Night,DeLa's Handspeed PREVENTED Floyd from Taking MORE Chances than he would've Liked to,Offensively...

Given this,Sugar Shane DEFINITELY Has a Chance...

@ this Point,REED is Inclined to Roll w/Floyd by a Decision,but REED FULLY Expects Sugar Shane to Give Floyd an Even TOUGHER Fight than DeLa OR Zab did...


REED

 

Floyd schools Shane.

 

He was throwing powershot leads and countering the jab with the overhand right. If you don't think that's taking a chance, you simply don't know boxing.

 

Floyd is retired. This is a mythical match.

 

And even if he hasn't, he's going to fight Oscar again.

 

w/Out Question,Floyd DID NOT Take NEARLY as Many Chances as he COULD Have,Last Night:nono: ...& DeLa DISREGARDED Jabbing Fairly EARLY N the Bout...

Do U DISagree w/that???:dunno: ...

Floyd SHOOK DeLa @ 1 Point,yet NEVER Followed Up...

Why??...

Cause he RESPECTED DeLa's POWER & HANDSPEED....REED would Even Argue that Floyd Respected DeLa N those Regards a Bit Tooooooooooooo Much....

Make NO Mistake about it,REED is a FAN of Floyd...REED Looooooooves Floyd,but let's NOT Pretend he was Spectacular Last Night:nono: ...He COULD have Done MORE than he Did,Despite CLEARLY Winning the Fight....

REED

 

Perhaps...

But Since YOU & SLY have Spearheaded the "Sugar Shane HATE Club" for SEVERAL YEARS Now,who CARES about Ya'lls Opinion???...


REED::

 

Floyd didn't school anything last night. Lets be real here. Floyd won and won clear as day, IMO...but this was still a somewhat disapointing performance from him. Oscar has been beaten worse than this before. He's eaten more shots than that before....he's struggled to land this few shots before. Oscar's been there.

For Floyd this was arguably his ugliest night @ the office, IMO. Even in the first fight with Castillo, he showed he was willing to eat it to go through and win. He won in impressive fashion that night, IMO even if it wasn't at all easy. Last night, he fought like a man who was afraid to commit. Thats a poor sign for his future at these higher weights, against younger, fresher, more hungry fighters.

 

agREED....

The CASUAL Boxing Fan who's NEVER Seen Floyd Fight(until Last Night) is Sitting Around Thinking,"THIS is the So-Called 'BEST Fighter in All of Boxing' ??"...

Quite a FEW Peeps Saw Floyd for the VERY FIRST TIME,Last Night...YOU & REED Know BETTER than to Judge Floyd Based SOLELY On Last Night,but there's Probably a MILLION Casual Fans who WILL Do JUST that,Whether it's FAIR or Not...

For the 500th Time,Floyd CLEARLY Won,but he WAS NOT Impressive...& This is a Huuuuuuuuge Floyd FAN Saying that...


REED

 

dsimon writes:

Exactly! I made the exact same comment on a different thread regarding Floyd not using the jab. :bears: I have also always felt this way about Shane.

 

dsimon writes:

There is a common misconception that Floyd is afraid of getting hit (not saying this is Reeds Point of view) which is.... ridiculous. Floyd is costantly in the mix barely sliding past punches to execute his shots and counters. His style could not be executed by somoene afraid of getting hit.

 

Yeah. He could've been fighting Oleg Maskaev. What do you expect?

 

Shane beats him! I think Shane Mosley has the speed and power and most important the workrate to outpoint Floyd. Mayweather backs up way to much and dosent let his hands go. It's just 1 punch at a time.

 

why do you expect floyd to look his best against the hardest oposition of his career, a larger very skilled dangerous man, if you think he should have been more impressive you are overrating floyd mayweathers abilities

 

didnt you pick dlh to win as well

 

dsimon writes:

It became sort of fightbeat gospel that somehow Shane has the style to beat Floyd. Probably because he is better than Judah and who isn't? People seem to think he will rush in and flurry Floyd like Oscar tried to do.

I agree with Stinger... same fight as last night. Except Shane has a shorter reach than Oscar and he actually might turn his shoulders on his body shots. Floyd can lay back and use that reach all night.

 

I've NEVER hated Shane. I was critical of him back when he was rated #1 P4P, and compared to Leonard & Robinson, because he was becoming overrated. But I've never hated him. Hell I'm a semi-FAN of Mosley. I just dont think he can beat Floyd AT THIS POINT. A prime Mosley at 147 might beat Floyd, but not the current version.

 

REED NEVER Expected Floyd to Look "His BEST"...

But REED Didn't Expect to Come Away UNimpressed by Floyd's Performance,Either...

N his BIGGEST Fights,Floyd USUALLY Shines...Genaro Hernandez,Manfredy(a VERY BIG Fight @ the Time),Corrales,Gatti,Zab...


REED

 

Fair Enough,Dog...

REED KNOWS Sly HATES Sugar Shane...REED Mistakenly Lumped U w/him...


REED

 

Shane's reach is longer than Oscar's.

 

none of those guys are dlh, they are basically bullshit compared to oscar

 

HISTORICALLY,Sure...

But Not Last Night's Version of DeLa...


REED:nono:

 

Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales and Gatti don't come close to him....historically or last night's version.

But they're also smaller.

 

Hernandez, Manfred and Corrales were all MUCH tougher fighters, who were all held in higher regard at this point in their career than Oscar.

 

You are mistaken again...

I don't hate Shane at all. How could anyone hate Shane? He's one of the most likable characters in the game and in the ring he's one of the most exciting.

It's just that I was appauled, back in 2000/2001, when people were saying that he's a better figher than Roy Jones and Floyd Mayweather and should be mentioned alongside Robinson and Leonard.

Jones and Mayweagher were ALWAYS far ahead of Shane in terms of overall abilities...but people couldn't see it just on the basis of SHane's handspeed, cute antics and him being the first man to defeat Oscar without controversy.

I seemed to be the ONLY ONE who saw Shane's limitations and the fact that he wasn't this master boxer..but rather a stylized slugger.

It's because I was the only one saying this that I became labelled as Shane hater...but this is FAR from the truth.

 

last nights dlh is the same dlh, dont believe the old man hype, floyd made him look uneffective, he was too slow

 

You Fightbeat idiots never learn. Don't pick against Floyd Mayweather.