Why didn't Pernell Whitaker try to attack Chavez?

Chavez was old, pernell was supposedly great, so how come he didn't make more of an effort to hurt Julio

Thoughts?

 

He used a lot of movement, lateral and on the backfoot, but at the same time, had occassions where he backed Chavez up, using the forearm and shoulder to push Chavez into the ropes, where he dug in with some nice shots.

The best punched landed in the whole fight was Whitaker's left in the 8th round. He followed up with some hard shots.

 

yeah but great fighters go for the KO, they don't get on their bikes.

Whitaker has a deep history of running, therefore he's not a great fighter.

 

i don't know. but he's got a "D" on his record as a result.

 

Because it's easier to get hit when you are attacking.

 

definitely well deserved. I'm tired of hearing about him being a great fighter. Great fighters fight like Gatti and Frazier, runners and scam artists like Whitaker and Mayweather don't deserve to be called great. Only by fooling people with bad eyesight, and taking advantage of their superior footspeed could they ever beat decent fighters

 

Chavez old? He was considered the best fighter, pound for pound, in the world when they fought.

 

i see your point. there's more to boxing than face-first brawling. i agree. but don't pretend that everything Whitaker did was pure. the guy used a lot of questionable tactics in there just to avoid getting hit.

and nobody is saying that PBF sucks. i think all they're saying is, they don't like him, they don't like watching him, and they're disappointed in his performance. i don't see how you can debate that given that people are just voicing their personal opinions.

 

Whitaker was a cheater just like Floyd and his illegal shoulder roll. I hate watching people disgrace the sport with pure boxing. We need to bring back warriors like Ali and Pepp that always went for the kill, since they were tough.

 

It's a terrible comparison though. DLH had fought once in two years and had lost as many as he won in the past few years as well.

Chavez was undefeated, the favorite, and considered to be the best fighter in the world, pound for pound. He was "supposedly" great.

Dumb, dumb comparison.

 

like predicting fights, sarcasm is not one of your strong suits

 

Intelligence isn't one of yours. How you can compare DLH to the CHavez fighting Whitaker shows it.

 

Fraud can run to his hearts content, it's when he's cornered and he starts twisting his back and turning his head which is the real problem,..:nono: ,..that style is illegal, your supposed to defend yourself with your hands, it takes 'defensive brilliance' to block 5 or 6 openings with your reflexes, but when Fraud turns his back all those openings dissapear there's nothing his opponent can do......

 

Whitaker wasn't a dumb fighter that's why. There's no way he was going to "go after" Chavez when he was having sucess with what he was doing already.

 

you mean dumb comparison on Jaw's part, right? i think it's kind of a bad comparison because a lot of people hate Whitaker just as they do PBF, and for the same reasons. so he's not really making a case here. in fact, when it comes to personal opinion, and who you enjoy watching fight and who you don't, there's really no case to be made at all.

 

Dumb comparison on Jaws part. I didn't enjoy watching Whitaker but I do enjoy watching Floyd, ironically.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/facetious

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

I know NYers love to butcher the english language, but at least in the written word, you can infer I wasn't being serious.

Although when I hear people say Floyd didn't win clear, I think they're being facetious.

 

:: :: Anyone who responds seriously to this is a dipfuck. Jaws is clearly making a joke.

 

Yeah, so getting back to the dumb comparison...

If you're making a style argument, I see your point - although it can be argued that Mayweather has far more pop than Pea.

 

Bro, you are smarter than this. He "taking the piss" as our rotten toothed brethran say. It is an obvious dig at Manny Steward.

 

Manny Steward?

<sigh>


I fear for the future.

 

SERIOUSNESS ALERT: NOTICE THE LACK OF EXAGGERATION TO FOLLOW

Whitaker and Floyd are alot alike IMO. Neither guy is stunning to watch, although i think Floyd's offense is a little bit better. Floyd won the fight clearly; he controlled the pace, landed the much better punches, showed great defense.

I hate Floyd's persona like no other (besides Roy) but that doesn't cloud my judgeent when I watch him.

 

Floyd is far more offensive-minded than Whitaker and far more effective at putting hurt on his opponents.
It's not ironic to like one and not the other, imo.

 

Is this comprehension of inference. Wow.

See kids, not everyone is stupid

 

WTF :laughing: :laughing:

 

I'm not sure about Mayweather being so much more offensive-minded.

Both guys adjusted their game plans to their opponents, but I've seen Whitaker do his share of trading up close or at mid-range or coming forward and being aggressive (Paez, McGirt, Trinidad, Hurtado).

 

Controlled the Pace ::

Bro with the exception of like 2 - 3 rounds the most , Oscar controlled the pace ..

 

Agreed. I thought Floyd won 7-5, 8-4 perhaps. But that's the worst I've seen him in years. He got a lil lumped up too. In fact - I'm reminded of Jones-Ruiz (although Jones was FAR more dominant): Jones looked good but he had slipped a bit. Same with Floyd...

 

:laughing: :laughing:

maybe you shouldn't talk anymore

 

well I think that's part him fighting at 154, fighting DLH, and I do see a little bit of the hesitance Roy was criticized for.

If I were Floyd I'd run like hell from the Hatton/Ouma type fighters. He doesn't like to trade, and if he fights someone that can go hard 3 minutes of every round I think he's in trouble