After Watching The Replay, Floyd Still Won "However..."

You still miss my point...

Real simple... I am not saying that BECAUSE Shane beat Oscar more convincingly that it means Shane could beat Floyd.

I am saying, as separate points, that

1) Floyd was unimpressive because Shane beat a prime Oscar more convincingly

2) I think Shane would destroy the version of Floyd that fought Oscar

There is no logic or formula. I was making simple comments based on these 3 fighters...

Damn this shouldn't be so tough...

 

there's no way Mayorga beats Shane. are you crazy!!!

 

So in your opinion Floyd is a great fighter and Oscar is far past his prime

yet

You also think it was the most "disgraceful performance of Oscar's entire career" to fight to a highly disputed split decision with Floyd...


Hmmmmm. Not sure that makes sense...

 

I think that was his point.

I would've loved to have seen Mosley give Mayorga a beating. Maybe Mayorga-Vargas will fall through and Mosley can beat up Mayorga in a showcase while he awaits for Oscar to give him permission to fight Mayweather.

 

It makes perfect sense. Oscar even past his prime is a decent and bigger fighter. It was not a highly disputed decision so stop fucking lying. Anyone who is even partially reasonable knows Floyd won clearly. Floyd is a smallish lightweight and he still beat guys like Zab, Chico and Baldomir. The only dark cloud in his career is struggling with a totally unskilled Castillo and looking shitty in winning. The guy started at 130 and has won belts up to 154. He also essentially won the undisputed Welterweight championship by beating both Zab and Baldomir unifying 2 whole classes above where he started.

 

I still don't know how it is the most "disgraceful performance of Oscar's entire career" to fight to such a tight fight with someone considered as great as Floyd.

Especially when Oscar has such gems as the Trinidad collapse, the Hopkins body shot, and the Sturm decision on his resume.

You don't know much about boxing, do you?

 

what else is new? the guy's an idiot. the next time he makes "any" sense will be the first time.

 

More than you will ever know. He beat Trinidad. He should never have attempted the fight with Hopkins, so he gets points from me for courage in taking the fight. He fought valiently against Sturm who was just too strong. He lost easily to Floyd so stop lying and saying it was close or tight. It wasn't. It was disgraceful because he was making it easy with his jab and he stupidly closed the gap and flurried missing 98% of the shots. He bought the hype. He figured he was bigger and stronger and he was going to prove it instead of being smart and using his jab and boxing more. I maintain now and and I maintained before the fight that Oscar could outbox Floyd. So you might not like my reasons, but they are reasons and reasonable. The fact that he got embarrassed by good smaller fighter when he could have won and got gassed is disgraceful.

 

Yep.. Confirmed.. You know zero about the sport..

And by the way, I didn't say the fight was close, the judges did...In your infinite lack of wisdom you may not agree with them, but it doesn't change the fact that they scored the fight closely.

Oscar missed 98% of his shots? Wow, you really know your shit.

Also, if you really listened, you would have heard Oscar say in a couple of post-fight interviews that he KNEW he should have thrown the jab more but just couldn't pull the trigger..

Lastly, I like how you know call Floyd a 'good' fighter. Two post ago you called him a "great" fighter.. Brilliant..:dunno:

 

All it confirmed is you are grumpy when you are schooled. Oscar missed everything in his flurries and looked stupid doing it. Good/Great whatever. Floyd is a skilled fighter and he has yet to lose. I would like to see him fight other good fighters. Oscar missed a ton of shots or are you blind as well as stupid? Keep in mind I was cheering for Oscar and I felt embarressed for him. He looked like a Zombie and got schooled.

 

Now you change it from 98% to "missed everything" to "missed a ton" of shots... I love your ability to back peddle in mid-stream... Amazing..

I scored the fight for Floyd. I thought it was clear that he deserved a close decision.. That isn't the point. The point is your utterly ridiculous claim that this was the most "disgraceful performance of Oscar's entire career."

That is just more stupidity from a poster with a long, storied history of stupidity. keep up the good work..

 

You can disagree, but it is just an opinion and it is one I have backed up. I said 98% as an exaggeration which someone with reasonable intelligence would understand. Oscar looked foolish and missed more shots than he landed and often looked like an amatuer, do you agree or not? I believe he gave Floyd the fight. Floyd is a good/great whatever adjective you want fighter, but Oscar shouldn't be losing to guys based on tactical errors. I really believe in my heart that Oscar had this fight and gave it up because he fought stupidly. I think that is disgraceful. I guess you don't agree.
The only other fight which comes close to being disgraceful is the Tito fight and frankly, they need to change the rules because Oscar had a huge lead (or should have) and did what he had to do. Maybe Tito should not have gotten so schooled in the first 3/4 of the fight. I am one of the greatest posters in the history of the net. If I am stupid, then everyone else must be retarded.

 

Well, we can just disagree and move on...

I will just stay with contention that losing by 1 point on 1 scorecard against a younger fighter, who is considered among the very best of his generation, is far from disgraceful..

 

I think you are an uniformed idiot that has no knowledge in this sport and MINDLESSLY clings to what the opinions of OBVIOUSLY corrupt judges say. How dare you question me when you are nothing more than someone who hasn't brains enough to score a fight on his own. It was not a one point fight. If you think that you have no business here. At best, Oscar won 4 rounds and that is at best. Don't be pissy because I know how to objectively score a fight even when the guy I wanted to win choked. There was only one scorecard that was accurate. How anyone could have Oscar winning is pure corruption and even as much as 7-5 for Floyd is incompetance at best. Go bah, bah to someone else sheepy pie. It was NOT a close fight and I don't care what 2 OBVIOUSLY paid off judges think. Two of the three were clearly instructed to make it close so they could drum up a rematch for a fight which was clear as day a win for FLOYD.

 

Brother, I've been watching fights for 35 years and have seen more than my share of close fights.

This fight wasn't razor thin, but it was also miles from a blowout or a disgrace.

I don't know if you had big money on Oscar or just your standard backseat blow job bet, but you're taking his loss harder than most.

Regardless of your insanity, bi-polar issues and general stupidity, there is no way Oscar's performance was the most disgraceful of his career. Nothing can compare to coasting to a loss for the last 5 rounds versus Tito or staying on a knee after a body shot from the big-punching Hopkins..

You, my ridiculous little friend, know very little...

 

I have read your opinions for years and there is no rational reason you should think you know anything more than I do. In fact, the opposite is true. You try to discount my opinion when you didn't have the brains, the opinion, the ability to have your own. Instead, you point to the judges flawed scorecards and said this is the law. If that is true, then I don't want to ever read you saying that there has ever in the history of the sport been a single bad decision. You can argue that. Either the judges are omnipotent or they are not. If you think whatever the judges say dictates reality then we have nothing to discuss. I know enough to have an informed opinion and peope who have met me know that I might be a biased guy but I score fights like a scientist. Ask Jaws, Steve-Dave, Winner by Choke or Matchup Equalizer. I weight what each guy does and award points based on it. I have an opinion. You are a dipshit that points at a boxscore and calls it his own opinion.

 

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You moron.. For the last time. I don't give a shit what the judges scorecards said.. The fact is that the fight was NOT a blowout and Oscar's performance as a 34 year old, aging fighter was NOT disgraceful.

I scored the fight 7-3-2 for Floyd.. So please quit assuming that I agree in any fashion with the official scorecards..

I will say it again, my only problem is that your moronic ass called this the most "disgraceful performance of Oscar's career".

As long as there are the Tito, Hopkins and Sturm fights on Oscars resume your statement will continue to be ridiculous. But as I said earlier, that is expected from you and your opinion is a joke anyway.


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Explain to me how essentially a welterweight losing to a dominant middleweight champion and a current middleweight title holder is disgraceful. I have already explained my opinion on the Trinidad fight. Oscar quit against Hopkins, but he had no chance of winning on paper before and he realized he tried to do too much. I give Oscar credit for taking a fight he cannot possibly win in something few superstars tried to do. If Roy had fought Wlad, no one could say he was a bitch for getting kayoed in 2 rounds if that were to occur. Roy couldn't ever beat Wlad. Oscar moved up to a weightclass he clearyl didn't belong.

 

Triple are you stupid or a just a liar? Do you really think thiS was a HIGHLY DISPUTED DECISION?

 

This is the most manufactured "controversial" decision since Jones-Tarver I.

 

Ugh, I'm already sick of hearing about this fight.

 

Correct. I won't even agree it was slightly controversial. Floyd won CLEARLY.PERIOD END OF STORY. The fact that some uninformed people refuse to score a figt accurately should not make it a controversy.

 

Get ready to hear about it even more when they announce the rematch.

 

I'd way rather see Mayweather/Mosley.

 

PBF'd better hope it's controversial. How else is he gonna make $20 mil for his next fight.

 

Me too.

 

word.

 

It should be the natural fight to make. Both in the same weight class being able to claim they both beat DLH.

 

Maybe after a Mayweather-De La Hoya rematch.

There's too much money there so unfortunately we will probably see that.

The thing is, Oscar generally takes time off after a loss, and likes to fight around the Mexican holidays in Sept and May. That makes the Mayweather rematch in May 08'. Mayweather and Mosley won't fight before then because it presents too much danger for a megafight rematch.