Why is Winky Favored over Hopkins??

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  1. Ron King 702

    Ron King 702 Undisputed Champion

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    Hopkins is +110 at MGM book. He seems to have every physical advantage over Winky.

    As of right now, im placing a sick man's wager on Hopkins. Someone talk me out of it.
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  2. Mean Mr Mustard

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    Isn't Hopkins, like, 45 or something?
    :dunno:
     
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    Nobody would care enough about you to talk you out of swallowing a barrel of a .45, hun...so please do hold your breath waiting on this one.
     
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    :lol:
     
  5. His_Royness

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    Maybe it's because Winky throws more than 5 punches a round... :dunno:
     
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    I think Hopkins could easily win this fight. Lately Wright has felt the need to dispense with his more defensive style and instead brawl unnecessarily. It's the reason he drew with JT instead of easily winning a decision. Most probably find this new Winky more entertaining but somehow for me he's been less. On top of that I think it's stupid, so I find myself rooting against him. Go B-hops!
     
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    dsimon writes:

    The fight is a toss up. Both guys are great. Hopkins has been off his horse a while longer.
     
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    He has always fought that way.
     
  9. Double L

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    it's probably based on age and the fact that Hopkins can't maintain a good pace anymore. he beat Tarver easily because he was allowed to fight when he wanted, and to pick his shots. but Winky's pressure and durability could prove too much for a 42 year old.

    still, the x factor of winky fighting at 172 is what i can't dismiss. he's never fought anywhere close to 172 - he never even settled into 160 fully if you ask me.

    it's a tough fight to call. i think that's why the odds are close to even.
     
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    Yeah, especially in the Trinidad and Mosley fights when neither guy could lay a glove on him.
     
  11. Double L

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    i agree.

    but against JT there was some extra aggression for the simple fact that Taylor is so tall.

    still, basically i agree. dating back to the Vargas fight, winky has had a high guard, come forward, short offensive jab style.
     
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    Yeah, he's always fought like that, but lately he's been way more dispenseful of his high guard. Against Quartey, whom he probably thought he could take out, and against JT. Also the Vargas fight was another fight where he dispensed with the high guard, and lost.
     
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    Precisely. This one is all but guaranteed to go the distance so the more active guy often gets the nod.
     
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    :lol: Beat me to it.
     
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    I;m hoping more people - specifically, more bettors - believe Hopkins as a slight underdog is absurd. This way they'll drive the odds in his favor and I can get a bet on Wink when he's the underdog.
     
  16. Double L

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    yeah. now is definitely not the time to place bets on Winky.
     
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    Well, as you once said, Vargas would demolish Hopkins, so it's only natural that Wright is favored over B-Hop.
     
  18. Hex-One

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    This is going to be a very boring fight:shit:
     
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    jake-what do you think about winky being forced to wear reyes?
     
  20. Double L

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    i think this fight will be exciting. Winky will make Hopkins fight.
     
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    This fight just makes no sense for me from Hops perspective. If he wins, he's supposed to. But if he does win it will probably be a very un-entertaining fight as it is very hard to look good against Winky. If he loses, it puts him out contention for fights with many and people start clamoring that he should have stayed retired. I was really hoping he'd cross the pond and fight Calzaghe.(thats if Joe would do it)
     
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    Well, winky "beat" Taylor more convincingly than hops, also the quartey fight is still fresh in the people's minds. That explains the odds
     
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    When he punches Hopkins in the grill it will hurt more. Winkys going to smash old man river.
     
  24. Double L

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    more than anything, that can detract significantly from his ability to block punches. i would think a fighter like Winky would want Grant gloves to provide maximum coverage with his defense.
     
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    If this fight is exciting I'll stop talking about the 10oz glove issue with you. :cool:
     
  26. Double L

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    was Wright/Taylor exciting? was Hopkins/Tarver exciting?
     
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    No, and those fights included other fighters.

    Bore-nard and Stinky are the two most boring fighters in the middleweight division.
     
  28. Double L

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    well if you didn't find either of those fights entertaining than you're right, there's no hope for Wright/Hopkins.
     
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    What was boring about Taylor-Wright? Wright is the most exciting guy that I have ever saw called boring over and over. The guy throws a lot of punches and typically presses the fight yet he is so boring to some people. :rolleyes:
     
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    He's not boring because he doesn't throw punches. All of Stinky's fights are the same... predictable, no x-factor. distance fights. It's just a matter of how many jabs and crosses he'll throw, how many he'll land, and who gets the decision.
     

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