Steve Smoger should be "Pistol Whipped"

To coin a Larry Merchant phrase (Jones vs Hall...for you idiots that don't know).

Did he want Miranda killed or something? And what's with Miranda's corner sending him back out to fight another round when it was obvious he was done? Don't people try to protect fighters any more?

I really thought i was about to see another ring fatality.

The man got "EF'd" up!!

 

Since when did Smoger become a referee that stopped fights too late? I thought that was a stupid comment by the HBO guys.

I thought he did a fine job in the fight. He let the guy rest, he obviously saw Miranda's corner ready to throw in the towel, and waited for the right moment.

 

Nah, he stopped it a the perfect time. No doubt Miranda was hurt after the 1st and 2nd kd, but he still had his senses, was firing back and held his hands up. Of course he was hurt, but it's boxing, not figure skating.

 

If nothing else, Pavlik has brutal, brutal power, Chico Corrales type of power actually, those ganguly frames seem to generate some serious snap. Maybe some people are right, all of America's great heavyweights ARE playing basketball.

 

Pavlik didn't remind me of Chico there. Miranda did, spitting out his mouthpiece on purpose

 

Watching the fight live, it did look like Miranda spit his mouthpiece out after Smoger finished his count of the knockdown (in the sixth round).

If that's the case, I think Smoger really mishandled that situation.

Regardless, I think he could have handled the sixth round better...he seemed to allow Miranda too much time to recover, which might have kept Pantera from being knocked out in the sixth. As it turned out, it didn't matter much as Miranda was all but finished by that point and Pavlik had enough left to finish the job the following round.

 

Referees are always in a tough position when a guy keeps getting up. I would have taken Miranda spitting his mouthpiece out as a sign that he was done...he did it right in Smoger's face and right when it was time to continue (or make the decision to continue or not.)

 

I thought it was football. Americas great heavyweights are playing at having the shit knocked out of them. Abraham Ko 11 Kelly Holmes Pavlik.

 

You mean, Abraham KOes Pavlik faster than you told us Quitali KOes Maskaev?

 

Bit of a mixture really, I used to scoff at the basketball reference, now I'm not so sure, those wide and skinny frames are lethal. But oiy, you listen up, Americans are becoming more intelligent, there's a fortune to be made in football and basketball, coz why have ya head punched in for less money?..whereas boxing is the only sport Europeans tend ta play, except for soccer, and w'all know dat therez no money ta be mayde dere...:stir: none at all, so basically it's the entirety of Eutopia against our shadow reserve bench.

 

The Jones-Hall stoppage was worse, cause Hall had taken a sustained ass whuppin for 10 rounds and not been competitve at all.

 

:notallthere: :notallthere: :notallthere:

 

:nono: Speaking of soccer that reminds me, you've got an English badge in your avatar, what happenned to the white and green?.....what's the Irish equivalent of an uncle tom?..":notallthere: " ...SUSPICIOUS face, that is..

 

ATHENS BABY. ATHENS. Thats what.

 

I thought the timing of the stoppage was fine. Miranda was still a live dog and Pavlik is open enough defensively that Miranda still had an outside chance to turn it around....................especially after those rights Miranda landed on Pavlik the round before.

It was a brutal beating but I believe you need to give a fighter like Miranda the benefit of the doubt. Smoger also took a point away when he spit out his mouthpiece which was sufficient IMO.

Pavlik didn't complain about the job Smoger did after the fight even when Merchant was goading him into saying do so.

 

Wonder what he'd have said if he'd have lost?

 

Yeah, he stopped it too soon. I hope that loud mouthed peasant never fights again.

 

:bears:

Larry Merchant should be pistol-whipped for overreacting like that. Even Pavlik said that he did a good job.

 

Exactly.

He did not take any extra time away to parade Miranda around the ring and take a point away. He told the judges after the round was over.

He walked Miranda over to get his mouthpiece back in as quickly as he could.


My only beef was that he didn't take 2 peoints away for a foul committed on purpose.



But since when has he become a referee known for late stoppages? Total bullshit.

 

That's not "coining" a phrase; that's "using" a phrase (for you idiots that don't know).

 

Smogger is a GOOD REF one of the best....HE musta said something to the HBO crew...or said something negative about hbo...

Merchant and Lampley were saying some LIES about Smogger...

 

There was one moment when Smoger's performance did raise a few eyebrows. On March 6, 1999, Lou Savarese fought Lance Whitaker in Atlantic City. Savarese hit the canvas twice. The second time, discretion being the better part of valour, he showed little inclination to rise. Smoger gave him a bit more time and a bit more encouragement than some onlookers thought appropriate. Savarese rose at what seemed to be the count of nine-and-three-quarters and went on to win the fight.


From a Thomas Hauser "article"...
http://www.secondsout.com/usa/colhauser.cfm?ccs=208&cs=12139

 

I think it was a case of keeping fans tuned in. Remember, the average boxing fan is really a fan of violence; not boxing.

 

Maybe they were mistaking him for Frank Cuppacoffee.

 

You, my friend, need to go out and get laid.

 

So one fight?

 

Lampley:" Frank Cappucino, you can stop it anytime"

Frank: "Nah fuck that, think I'll stand here and watch"

 

I just posted that for people to read:dunno: :dunno:

 

It's actually a good read.

 

As a matter of fact, I just did.