HERE AND NOW....RIGHT HERE AND NOW...ABRAHAM BEATS BOTH PAVLIK AND TAYLOR.

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  1. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That would be significant IF ZERTUCHE WASN'T SUCH A FUCKING NOBODY
     
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    IMDAZED Undisputed Champion

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    Orthodox, shame on you. According to Roy Jones, Nobody is Somebody.
     
  3. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    And that somebody was ROY himself.

    A nobody, in other words.
     
  4. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Yeah but Pavlik completely annihilated his demon(Miranda) while Abraham just held on for a bogus decision after 2 or 3,4 point deductions to Miranda....and was put on the shelf for a few months with a wired jaw.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Yeah because Abraham is such a master boxer? While he beat guys like Kofi Jantuah he found himself exchanging and on the ropes a lot. yeah, the great Kofi jantuah was roughing him up at times of course being impressive matters. Pavlik fucking wrecked a guy that Abraham struggled like hell with. Pavlik would murder Abraham.
     
  6. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    WHO POPPED MIRANDAS CHERRY???

    WHO TOOK IS "O"??

    I guess Wlads KO of Mercer means a lot more than Lennys stumbling disputed decision win???

    I guess Lyakhovich can beat the shit out of Wlad, seeing as Wlad lost to Brewster but Segei didn't???

    Please.......
     
  7. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    We'll see.:rolleyes:

    My guess is that Pavlik finds out what the rough end of an 12 round fight feels like...and then his big ass frame regrets fighting as low as 160....lets see how much Power Kelly has beyond the 7th. We already know he's slow as treacle and that he's there to be hit.

    Question: How many body shots did Miranda land on Pavlik last night?
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Pavlik by MURDER:clap:
     
  9. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    With the extreme help of the REF....and the judges...the only thing popped in that fight was Abrahams jaw..

    Wlad was always better than Lyakovich, there was never any doubt. Who is better between Pavlik and Abraham is still up in the air...and Abraham fighting protected in Germany by the ref and judges will not change that....Pavlik will move on to fight for the LEGIT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP..while Abraham defends his IBF title...:notallthere:

    Abraham will just stay in germany and wait out the division.....hope for everyone to cancel each other out...and he will be left standing....
     
  10. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Damn.......IS PAVLIK THE LATEST GREAT WHITE HYPE or what???
     
  11. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    OC is such a cock, he makes you want to hate Abraham. I wish the faggot was in love with a guy who can't fight, instead.

    Abraham would beat Pavlik, IMO.
     
  12. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He doesn't have a history of that. So please, STFU already with that mantra. He was the first guy to stand up to Miranda and he PASSED that test. Maybe if he had the benefit of 3 more tapes worth of Miranda fights he could have done better. All in all you are being unfairly biased.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    I don't know about white hypes but I know Pavlik would fuck Abraham up. :popcorn:
     
  14. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    OC roots for the white man, he's a racist.

    OC roots against the white man, he's a cock.

    General Custer has a better chance of a fair hearing than me.

    That said, :bears: on your insight.
     
  15. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You can't know Pavlik and NOT KNOW about White Hypes.

    Pavlik is a skinny tall skinhead.
     
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    Tam what on earth do you see in him? He doesn't do anything that well. He is not that fast, he is not a master boxer, and he can't even punch that hard, and his workrate is not phenominal either.

    What's good about him? The only thing I can see about him is he is a half decent all rounder, and he's tough and clearly has some heart.

    Still he'd get his face bashed in against pavlik, there's just no 2 ways about it. He is not outboxing pavlik, and he couldn't hurt him either. Didn't you say the way pavlik simply walked miranda down? Even when he was getting whacked flush in round 5 I was thinking "shit, what's gonna happen now?". But nothing. He was in no trouble at all.
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    He didn't look like a hype to me as he was beating the living hell out of the guy who broke Abrahams jaw and gave him hell.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    the only good fighter he beat impresively and without much help was IKEKE and Eastman...Mosley destroyed Taylor...Ouma spanked Jantuah...and he got alot of help from the ref in the Miranda fight...but he showed HEART....
     
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    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Abraham was hurt and struggled like hell with Eastman. He did demolish Ikeke though.
     
  20. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Are you describing Arthur Abraham or Bernard Hopkins? :dunno:

    Thats all your opinion, mate and you're entitled to it. I have my doubts about how Pavlik will hold up over a long fight, with a quality fighter.

    One fight will never convince me that a fighter is 'for real'.
     
  21. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Now we're reaching new depths of revisionism.
     
  22. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    He's partially right. Abraham had all sorts of trouble with Eastman. But Howard took a beating...I also don't think Abraham was in any real trouble in terms of being 'hurt'.
     
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    Well at least we are all in agreement about Taylor. :tease:

    A broken jaw can happen to anybody, which makes the comparisons even less relevant. If it was so easy, Morales should have never fought Pacquiao, since Pacquiao destroyed Barrera, who Morales could only edge by close decision three times. :stir: :stir:
     
  24. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Eastman is crafty...and Abraham was really untested at that point. Howard was hanging on in there. For me, Eastman vs AA was like PEa vs Oscar. Howards last combined reserves of skill and balls were used up in that fight. Arthur had some difficulty coming to terms with him, but that was it. Once he had him, he poured it on.
     
  25. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    YES. THATS IT IN A NUTSHELL.
     
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    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Tam, gimme the link to the Boxing without Jermain forum again, I lost it. :eek:ld:
     
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    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Suuuure you did. :nono:

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    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yeah, sure I did, first time my computer went down I lost all bookmarks, second time I lost all cookies. :flip: :flip:
     
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    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    :lol: Cupey has the site blocked form even being mentioned on here. Thats respect :blobbox:

    I'll PM it to you.
     
  30. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Whats this??
     

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