and so is your average snowman. Complexion alone, however doesn't make a person a star...skills pay the bills.
Yeah I don't want to hear people talking about weight draining. Pavlik is a big bastard at 160 as well.
The Defensive? :laughing: Miranda wouldn't know what defense was if it crawled up his ass and died there.
:dunno: I did say in the Prediction thread that the fight is a PICK'em...YOU keep putting their your white fighters for failure.....always expecting the worst from them...you have no faith on your own. Tszyu and Abdullaev were quitters and you went to hell with them....Margarito is a limited fighter that has NEVER face anyone worth a shit..but you nut on him to death..or he nuts on you.... Pavlik winning was for the betterment of boxing...
Pavlik beat his ass..no question, but I wouldn't say Miranda was on the defensive. If he were...he wouldn't have gotten beaten up so badly. Mrianda was trying to fight fire with fire...but his guns were less effective.
The guy was backing up a lot or on the ropes. Sure, he fired back sometimes but for the majority of the fight he was on the defensive.
Like I said...he came off 2nd best in a slugfest. All of a sudden, Pavlik, who's biggest win was an 8 round decision over Ross Thompson, is the second coming of Stanley Ketchell.
WHATS ALL THIS THEN??? The Zertuche fight was an eliminator for the WBC title???? But Zertuche LOST to Zuniga in his fight immediately before that, and Zuniga was someone that Pavlik had already beaten??? HOW IS THAT AN ELIMINATOR?? BULL:shit: BULL:shit: BULL:shit: Pavlik really is a hype number!
I don´t know why everybody is so impressed with Pavlik. According to Boxingtalk the fight was even (1-1-1) on the scorecards, when Smoger prematurely stopped the bout.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
The only people that aren't impressed with Pavlik are german fans, because Pavlik goes in there and takes care of business, and beats muthafuckers up. Unlike pussies such as smurf boy and sven ottke amongst others. They are also scared shitless pavlik is going to dismember their little smurf. All the armenian grit growing out of Abe's arsehole won't help him when he's getting walked down and nailed with powershot after powershot. If Eastman arguably beat him and hurt him, pavlik would seriously do a number on him. Eastman is just a MUCH worse version of pavlik, and much slower. Eastman has the handspeed of a 3 toed sloth, and about the same workrate :: Pavlik might be getting a lot of attention based on this one win, but that's because he was impressive. He simply walked down a known puncher and beat the fight out of him, and took him out. A select few of you seriously overrate abraham.
Zertuche, a guy that Pavlik was fighting to get a shot at Taylor.....was coming off a LOSS to Zuniga who had previously LOST to Pavlik. A select few of you seriously overrate Pavlik.
Face it, Pavlik did what your smurf hero could not. Actually beat up Miranda and stop him. He didn't need a home town decision to pull it out like Abraham.
Orth, it's true man. Smurf boy could not convincingly and decisively beat Miranda, yet Pavlik just walked him down and fucking STOMPED him. Have you seen the whole fight? Did you see how badly Pavlik fucked him up in the 6th and 7th rounds? Did you see Miranda'a face afterwards?
I am a Euro through and through, and I was glad that calzaghe hammered the proper US hype job - Lacy. But seriously, pavlik is no hype job. The guy can fight, seriously have you seen the miranda fight or not? Also Orth - why the fuck are you so fixated with German fighters? Are you a Gerry?
Abraham is from Armenia. What other German fighters do you fear I am so fixated with?? :dunno: :dunno:
I have you to tell me about it in your eloquent style, please, humour me some more with tales of this whiteboy stomp....
If you were not impressed with Pavlik in this fight there is no helping you. You've lost your god damn mind.
Pavlik can only fight Miranda 1 time in ANY given CALENDAR year. After that, he has to fight someone that isn't Zertuche, Zuniga or a defense-lacking chinny puncher. Just as Ali struggled with Norton, Foreman was a different kettle of fish.
Irish - to be fair, you haven't even seen this fight. You don't really have the right to judge until you see the whole fight. Get hold of it and watch the whole thing. Pavlik has a great punch, a good beard and can fight. He would SMASH abraham into the ground.